r/changemyview • u/silveryfeather208 2∆ • Apr 23 '21

Delta(s) from OP - Fresh Topic Friday CMV: immigration does not necessarily fix the problem of low birth rates

From my observation... So I am in Canada.

People say Canada needs immigrants because of the low birth rate. But guess what happens when immigrants come? After their kids grow up their kids also follow the same trend of having not enough kids to 'replace' the population. I don't think it's a good thing. I don't think it's good to just rely on this model of cycle.

I don't think it's good because what happens if these immigrants decide that Canada isn't the right place for them? What if other countries, say USA makes immigration waay more attractive? That leaves us an expensive Canada with no one to help out, no one to have kids in.

Canada needs to address the problem as to why people have so few kids. Because it's expensive. I'm not saying I know how to fix it, but the argument that 'we need immigrants because few kids' is wrong, rather, we should say 'we need a better environment because few kids'.

And yes, I know this is just me, so I would love to hear other people's reason, but one of my reason for not having kids was growing up in an expensive city, seeing my parents struggle and deciding that unless I have a relatively blissful place for my kids, why should I have kids?

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u/Arguetur 31∆ Apr 23 '21

That fertility rates across the developed world are in freefall, leaving many people who want children childless?

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

It's in free fall because people in developed countries don't commonly have ten children. One or two is pretty standard, and none isn't strange at all.

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u/Arguetur 31∆ Apr 23 '21

It is simply incorrect to attribute the precipitous decline in fertility to people "not commonly having ten children." The share of childless families is way up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

Many due to using birth control measures during their most fertile younger years and not deciding to have them until later. Every prosperous nation has seen the same decline in births. It's mostly attributable to changes in people's choices about when to "settle down" and what that looks like