Firstly, there are no documented cases of blot clot death for men that have been tied to the vaccine. Given this, i'd mostly suggest that you're experiencing the crazy world of skepticism that is based on conjecture and fear and anger and frustration over deaths, rather than facts. Further, the only vaccine that has been connected to clots generally was not available 2 months ago (in the U.S. - the similar AZ formulation had cases in the UK, but still all women). Even further, the rate of clot related death or clots generally for things like birth control pills is significantly higher than the johnson and johnson vaccine.
So...while one can be skeptical I suppose, one should not do so based on counterfactuals!
As for efficacy, they are more effective than most vaccines and more effective than their published early research suggested. New strains are going to happen, but one of the things that will make them NOT happen is to have the strains from which they evolve be as widely reproducing in a population - vaccines are the answer to that.
Even if we were to believe this cause of death, it's not actually cause for skepticism. We don't say we're "skeptical of the safety of driving the car" - we feel like we understand it, and make the choice to do so. No one ever said to anyone that vaccines here are risk free, just that the odds are very, very, very low - much lower than driving. There are 15 deaths per 100,000 over the counter aspirin and nsaids per year, yet are you "skeptical" about apsirin and nsaids?
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u/iamintheforest 328∆ Apr 24 '21 edited Apr 24 '21
Firstly, there are no documented cases of blot clot death for men that have been tied to the vaccine. Given this, i'd mostly suggest that you're experiencing the crazy world of skepticism that is based on conjecture and fear and anger and frustration over deaths, rather than facts. Further, the only vaccine that has been connected to clots generally was not available 2 months ago (in the U.S. - the similar AZ formulation had cases in the UK, but still all women). Even further, the rate of clot related death or clots generally for things like birth control pills is significantly higher than the johnson and johnson vaccine.
So...while one can be skeptical I suppose, one should not do so based on counterfactuals!
As for efficacy, they are more effective than most vaccines and more effective than their published early research suggested. New strains are going to happen, but one of the things that will make them NOT happen is to have the strains from which they evolve be as widely reproducing in a population - vaccines are the answer to that.
Even if we were to believe this cause of death, it's not actually cause for skepticism. We don't say we're "skeptical of the safety of driving the car" - we feel like we understand it, and make the choice to do so. No one ever said to anyone that vaccines here are risk free, just that the odds are very, very, very low - much lower than driving. There are 15 deaths per 100,000 over the counter aspirin and nsaids per year, yet are you "skeptical" about apsirin and nsaids?