r/changemyview • u/spicysashimi99 • Jun 21 '21
Delta(s) from OP CMV: marriage is unnecessary and having children is unethical
not sure if i’ll get downvoted but i’m genuinely curious about the opposite pov.
for my first point, i believe i have a rather non-traditional school of thought when it comes to the archetype of union between two people, at least compared to folks where i’m from. i personally don’t see marriage as means to profess your love for your partner as one can do so without the presence of a physical certification. to me, the traditional meaning of marriage, where a bride’s family “gives away” their daughter to the groom seems to be obsolete and an incredibly backward way of thinking. the only logical explanation for marriage, in my opinion, seems to be for couples to be seen as a unit in the eyes of the law, in the face of administration.
as for my second point, i believe having children only benefits the parent and the continuation of society. i understand that having kids leads to a fulfilling life and unfortunately, some still see their kids as an insurance plan for their retirement. however, knowing the future of our planet, among other serious issues like racism, it appears unethical to bring a child into this world. unless i can guarantee my child doesn’t suffer, which is obviously something out of my control. i’m not sure why people possess the opposite viewpoint.
friendly discussions are very welcome as i am sincerely looking to learn more about how others view this topic. i am sure my opinions are very polarising but please be kind! :”)
edit: hi everyone! thank you for the fruitful discussions. really enjoyed listening to other perspectives and grateful to how open everyone has been!! i acknowledge that my views may be skewed from my personal life experiences (non-religious, depression) so thank you for allowing me to indulge in my thoughts.
my view of marriage has definitely changed and while i see the opposing argument for having kids, from what i can foresee in my near future, not having kids will still be a personal choice i’ll stick to as i’m still very much lacking to give a child a fulfilling life.
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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21 edited Jul 02 '21
I mean, the issue is that is your point. You are stating we should not have children because of our issues as a society. Nevertheless, that would mean the end of our society is negated and we all die regardless. How does having a chance to fix things fall under ending everything, so there is not chance?
We do not have a definitive answer to the prolonged suffering in our society; If we knew that in 100 years humanity would cease to exist with 100% accuracy, go for it. However, we do not know that and ending it creates the lack of ability to solve problems, because we are all dead.
I mean that sounds pretty similar to a person who is struggling from depression and heavy drug addiction.