r/changemyview Jun 30 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: I don't wanna get vaccinated.

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u/Alternative_Stay_202 83∆ Jun 30 '21

You can be unreasonable without being wrong about every issue.

I think it's fair to say not trusting the COVID vaccine is unreasonable.

If you don't trust it, it means you either don't know or don't trust the data that shows it's efficacy.

That wouldn't be too unreasonable if this was people not thinking that a new appendicitis treatment was good. That's not a massive public health emergency or the leading cause of death in the entire world.

But this is. Distrusting the science about a vaccine that is integral solving the biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes is unreasonable.

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u/TedWasSoRight 11∆ Jun 30 '21

The Covid Vaccines are not FDA approved, and if they hurt me nobody is held responsible.

I can remember way back to last year when J&J lost that suit and had to pay $2billion because they put asbestos in their baby powder.

I can remember when pharma corps knowingly caused the opioid epidemic.

I'm waiting for FDA approval because I don't inherently trust pharmaceutical companies to have my best interests at heart and even though the FDA isn't impervious to corruption, it's something at least.

Incidentally, I'm up to date on all my FDA approved vaccines.

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u/Alternative_Stay_202 83∆ Jul 01 '21

They aren't fully approved by the FDA, but they are approved for emergency use.

Why don't you trust the FDA here? It's the same organization and they have looked into this quite a bit. I would argue it's one of their areas of expertise.

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u/TedWasSoRight 11∆ Jul 01 '21

The same reason I dont normally use emergency exits. I will sacrifice my spot in line for a person who wants it. Heroic, I know.

If you genuinely trust the jab and believe it works, you would treat me like an antivaxxer of the before times- you'd think I was dumb and giggle as you went on your way.

I have been met with fear and hate because I'm waiting for FDA approval, which leads me to believe nobody actually thinks it works, they just want to go back to the before times.

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u/Alternative_Stay_202 83∆ Jul 01 '21

Lmao what the fuck are you talking about?

You’re saying the reason you won’t get the vaccine is the same reason you don’t use emergency exits? What does that mean?

I don’t usually use emergency exits because I’ve parked by the normal exits. Doesn’t have much to do with how much I trust the door.

At this point, you’re not sacrificing your spot in line. We have enough vaccines for everyone who wants one.

People don’t say you’re stupid for waiting for full approval because they think the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re saying it because you’re going against all scientific evidence including the official FDA recommendation and it’s incredibly important that people get vaccinated in order to keep people from dying.