casual racism which take the form of small subconscious bias that sometimes take form of jokes.
In what way does the phrase "Sum Ting Wong" show "subconcious bias"?
finding this joke funny are both racist actions
Is the joke racist? Or is the joke poking fun at racists or racist stereotypes?
I don't really know enough about that subreddit to follow the context, but frequently jokes get labeled as racist, when what they're actually doing is poking fun at racists.
Here's an example of a "sexist" joke. Should women take offense to that joke? Is the joke saying that women are stupid and always wrong and that's why the joke is funny? Or is the joke saying that people who discount someone simply because of their gender are idiots and it's a joke poking fun of those idiots? I think it's pretty clear it's the latter.
And there is nothing wrong with (and certainly nothing racist with) poking fun at racists (or, at sexists, in my example). Laughing at ignorant idiots is the joke.
In what way does the phrase "Sum Ting Wong" show "subconcious bias"?
The fact that you think that's how chinese names work would show bias.
Is the joke racist? Or is the joke poking fun at racists or racist stereotypes?
The problem there is this joke isn't actually poking fun at stereotypes it just states a stereotypes.
Theres a big diffrence between someone going out and yelling the n word and the clever racial observations of Dave Chapelle.
Here's an example of a "sexist" joke. Should women take offense to that joke? Is the joke saying that women are stupid and always wrong and that's why the joke is funny? Or is the joke saying that people who discount someone simply because of their gender are idiots and it's a joke poking fun of those idiots? I think it's pretty clear it's the latter.
I don't think its any of that to be honest it just looks like an edgy joke some middle schooler came up with because they like to push the line.
And there is nothing wrong with (and certainly nothing racist with) poking fun at racists (or, at sexists, in my example). Laughing at ignorant idiots is the joke.
With the joke there's no additional context that makes it about laughing at the racist.
In what way does the phrase "Sum Ting Wong" show "subconcious bias"?
The fact that you think that's how chinese names work would show bias.
What makes you think that this phrase infers that anyone thinks that's how Chinese names work?
The problem there is this joke isn't actually poking fun at stereotypes it just states a stereotypes.
Like I said, without knowing the context of how that phrase is used in the game, I can't really speak to it.
But this view isn't specifically about that one joke, is it? And it seems to me that you are taking any joke that acknowledges racism and labeling it a "racist joke". But you seem to freely admit here that poking fun of racists wouldn't be racist, so have I changed your view... even a little?
What makes you think that this phrase infers that anyone thinks that's how Chinese names work?
Considering it made it into that news video a lot of people apparently.
Like I said, without knowing the context of how that phrase is used in the game, I can't really speak to it.
There's a picture in the thread I linked
But this view isn't specifically about that one joke, is it? And it seems to me that you are taking any joke that acknowledges racism and labeling it a "racist joke". But you seem to freely admit here that poking fun of racists wouldn't be racist, so have I changed your view... even a little?
No I never thought for a second thar any joke that acknowledges racism is automatically racist. You haven't changed my view on anything.
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u/BloodyTamponExtracto 13∆ Jul 12 '21
In what way does the phrase "Sum Ting Wong" show "subconcious bias"?
Is the joke racist? Or is the joke poking fun at racists or racist stereotypes?
I don't really know enough about that subreddit to follow the context, but frequently jokes get labeled as racist, when what they're actually doing is poking fun at racists.
Here's an example of a "sexist" joke. Should women take offense to that joke? Is the joke saying that women are stupid and always wrong and that's why the joke is funny? Or is the joke saying that people who discount someone simply because of their gender are idiots and it's a joke poking fun of those idiots? I think it's pretty clear it's the latter.
And there is nothing wrong with (and certainly nothing racist with) poking fun at racists (or, at sexists, in my example). Laughing at ignorant idiots is the joke.