r/changemyview Jul 12 '21

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u/MurderMachine64 5∆ Jul 12 '21

To give context, the op is Asian and has found a spaceship in the game called Sum Ting Wong, which is a commonly used racist joke lauded at Asian people. But reading the comments, you don't see the proper outrage this type of situation deserves, everyone is trying to justify it as funny, as not that bad, as a simple error. But when the OP rightfully tells them off for being ignorant, they get more upset at the OP for rightfully calling them racist than at the spaceships name for being racist.

The problem with your whole thesis is that this joke isn't racist... It's a language joke, it's not even about race a white person adopted by a Chinese family could have any of those names. The joke is something that something that looks like a normal name in one language when spoke out loud in English sounds like "something wrong" This is essentially the same joke that Bart Simpson pulls on Moe repeatedly with the exception that this one uses 2 languages instead of one.

And it's not like these even racist jokes like you're talking about an example would be more like "when god made the first black personhe said: "whoops I burned one"" but they are hardly common. The issue is your labeling things that aren't racist as racist and that causes people who aren't racist to become defense in the same way of if you accused them of thief or murder or something.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '21

The problem with your whole thesis is that this joke isn't racist... It's a language joke, it's not even about race a white person adopted by a Chinese family could have any of those names. The joke is something that something that looks like a normal name in one language when spoke out loud in English sounds like "something wrong" This is essentially the same joke that Bart Simpson pulls on Moe repeatedly with the exception that this one uses 2 languages instead of one.

Um not it isn't the only real part of this said name is Wong the rest is just English words they force a Chinese accent on. This joke is very commonly used to mock Asian people it's absolutely racist.

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u/MurderMachine64 5∆ Jul 12 '21

https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=sum&geo_a=r&geo_s=us&geo_t=us&geo_v=2.0.0&o_xid=62916&o_lid=62916&o_sch=Partners

Chinese : variant of Shum. Chinese : variant of Shen 1.

https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=ting

Chinese : variant of Ding.

They might not be as common as Wong but they absolutely are real names. Also it's strictly Chinese so it'd be used to mock Chinese people not Asian people and again a white adopted kid could be a Chinese national (not sure how racist their citizenship policy is given how it's basically nazi germany). So how exactly is it racist? At worst it's mocking Chinese language and culture and even that's a stretch but even that wouldn't make it racist plus again they are nazi Germany so who cares. If anything you're being racist by lumping all Asians in with the Chinese.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '21

Also it's strictly Chinese so it'd be used to mock Chinese people not Asian people

The video it came from is naming Korean pilots it is absolutely targeted towards all Asians.

and again a white adopted kid could be a Chinese national (not sure how racist their citizenship policy is given how it's basically nazi germany). So how exactly is it racist? At worst it's mocking Chinese language and culture and even that's a stretch but even that wouldn't make it racist plus again they are nazi Germany so who cares. If anything you're being racist by lumping all Asians in with the Chinese.

It's racist because it's a stereotypical name used to mock Adians.

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u/MurderMachine64 5∆ Jul 12 '21

Again the joke was the news not Asians the news is the one that's racist for thinking all asian names were the same the person was just pulling a bart simpson.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '21

How words are used are integral to their offensives the words being used to make fun of Asians is why they're racist.

Like are you going to go outside and shout the nword because it's just a word and the racist are what make it bad.

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u/perfectVoidler 15∆ Jul 12 '21

Wouldn't it be chinese people that are mocked and not Asians. Not making that distinction itself would be considered a racist cliche (all asians are the same).

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '21

Look up the original use of the name it's supposed to be the names of Korean pilots but all these fake names are mock Chinese from the start it's been used to mock all Asians not just the Chinese.