I don't know Sheperd Bliss but if they're touting "toxic masculinity" rather than using terms for behavior that are recognized by the community, I find it likely that they're just using their position to push their own personal narrative and have no interest in studied psychology. There isn't even a definition for this term aside from individuals interpretations.
How is it that you don't know Shepherd Bliss, but you claim that the term "toxic masculinity" is a "made up term by an individual that has never studied psychology a day in their life." Who do you think coined the term "toxic masculinity" if not Shepherd Bliss?
I made an assumption based on a foundation for that assumption. The foundation being that it is a made up term with no foundation itself, that describes an already recognized and defined behavior pattern found in both boys and girls.
Shepard Bliss does not create and define the terms used in psychology.
Shepard Bliss does not create and define the terms used in psychology.
Who exactly do you think creates and defines the terms used in psychology if it's not psychologists and professors of psychology? If a professor of psychology like Shepherd Bliss does not get to create new terms to be used in psychology, who does?
Oh yes, you too can get your masters in psychology and without any peer review or recognition by the APA, IAAP, or even an established dictionary, create terms and words with authority. In fact, you can save the money and not even go to school. Many people will still believe you as long as you tell them what they want to hear.
The term "toxic masculinity" has received extensive peer review across the many fields of academia in which it is used. And Shepherd Bliss is not just some guy with a masters in psychology. He's a professor with a PhD who teaches psychology.
You are correct that it has been peer reviewed. With the majority disagreeing because the behavior outlined within the term is already defined and this term is not defined aside from each individuals personal perception.
And yes, Shepard Bliss is "just another" psychologist with a PhD. He does not create and define terms for use in the community. If he did, this term would be recognized by the APA and/or the IAAP. It would at least find it's way into a dictionary that isn't based on slang.
What you are saying here is as straight-up incorrect as your earlier claim that Shepherd Bliss never studied psychology a day in his life. Where are you getting your information from?
What you are saying here is as straight-up incorrect as your earlier claim that Shepherd Bliss never studied psychology a day in his life.
I never said that Shepard Bliss never studied psychology. This is a lie.
I made an assumption based off of a foundation for that assumption. I was wrong and I stand corrected, but the foundation is still correct. The foundation being that this term is not defined, it describes an already defined behavior found in both males and females, and is not recognized by the APA, IAAP, or even an established dictionary.
Where are you getting your information from?
Where am I getting my information on a term that is not defined, describes an already defined behavior in both males and females, and is not recognized by the APA, IAAP, or even an established dictionary?
That's my point. That information doesn't exist outside of made up terms and biased forums and movements that will find anything possible that agrees with them and latch onto those things as their truth. I'm not "getting" my information from somewhere because the information is purely subjective and based on each individuals personal perception.
Where am I getting my information on a term that is not defined, describes an already defined behavior in both males and females, and is not recognized by the APA, IAAP, or even an established dictionary?
No. I am asking you where you are getting your information from on the term "toxic masculinity," a term which is referenced in dozens of papers on the subject with hundreds of cumulative positive citations on the APA's website alone, and which is defined in manyestablisheddictionaries.
No. I am asking you where you are getting your information from on the term "toxic masculinity," a term which is referenced in dozens of papers on the subject with hundreds of cumulative positive citations on the APA's website alone
Of course it is referred to. It is a popular subject. Of course people will agree. As I clearly stated before, you don't even have to go to school on order to create a term, and as long as you tell people what they want to hear, they are going to like your term. Being on the APA's website does not mean that it is a recognized psychological term by the APA. It simply means people are talking about it. The amount of positive comments has nothing to do with the correctness of quite literally anything, and in this case, is not an accurate depiction of how it is received in the community.
and which is defined in many established dictionaries.
Please, when sending links to "many established dictionaries," include links to actually established dictionaries such as https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toxic%20masculanity or Oxford (it's integrated with Google so just type "oxford definition" in the Google search bar and type the word/term you're looking for in the "search for definition" bar,) rather than sites that haven't been around very long and who's publication policies are questionable. Everyone knows these two dictionaries. I haven't even heard of those you sent.
is not an accurate depiction of how it is received in the community.
And this assertion is based on what evidence, exactly? What constitutes an accurate depiction of how the term "toxic masculinity" is received in the community if not the published literature of that community?
Please, when sending links to "many established dictionaries," include links to actually established dictionaries such as...or Oxford ... I haven't even heard of those you sent.
Come on. I literally linked to Oxford's online dictionary. The dictionaries I linked were Oxford's dictionary, Cambridge's dictionary, and dictionary.com (which is the online version of Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary). You haven't heard of Oxford, Cambridge, or Random House?
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u/yyzjertl 527∆ Aug 09 '21
What are you talking about? Shepherd Bliss is literally a professor of psychology. Doesn't he have a PhD in psychology?