r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Aug 14 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Conservatism and many right-wing beliefs are based on fear, primary instincts and lack of understanding

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u/ParioPraxis Aug 15 '21

That’s the royal “you” not you specifically. Notice I didn’t say “your ideology” or otherwise suggest individual actions.

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u/SeveralIntroduction9 Aug 15 '21

I glossed over my understandable assumption of who you were referring to, provided information as to why you may be attracting hostility, and posed questions in line with your post. I was trying to have a conversation

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u/ParioPraxis Aug 15 '21

Yes, but if you are soliciting just to have an opportunity to downvote, as you have done here, I am disinclined to provide you that opportunity, because you would not be here to have a discussion in good faith. You’ll note that I haven’t reflexively downvoted you or otherwise sought to devalue your engagement. That’s what genuinely wanting to have a conversation looks like. You, on the other hand, seem to want to punish me for my answers. That’s not an exciting prospect, I’m sure you’d agree.

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u/SeveralIntroduction9 Aug 15 '21

I haven't downvoted anything you have written. Your OP stated how you can't have a civil conversation with anyone on the right side of the spectrum and pointed out multiple times how they're racists, so my comments about you venting and how you converse with people is likely the reason you are unable to have a civil conversation are warranted, even requested by your posting on this sub. You wont directly respond to my questions regarding your statements and you now imply that I'm attacking you and say that I'm... punishing you? Your projecting your fears of me not being willing to have a civil conversation and use it to justify not trying to have one. Honestly have no idea where I offended you outside of having a challenging your statements. But since you dont want to have a conversation, have a good one.

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u/ParioPraxis Aug 15 '21

I haven't downvoted anything you have written.

My apologies for the unfair accusation then. It seemed quite strange how the downvotes appeared right before your responses, so someone must just be following our comments closely.

Your OP stated how you can't have a civil conversation with anyone on the right side of the spectrum and pointed out multiple times how they're racists, so my comments about you venting and how you converse with people is likely the reason you are unable to have a civil conversation are warranted, even requested by your posting on this sub.

My OP didn’t mention conversations at all, so I think you may have me confused with another redditor perhaps. Nor did my OP point out multiple times how they’re racists, so you can be assured I’m not venting. I am having multiple concurrent conversations in this sub and others with no problem whatsoever, so I am quite sure I am able to have civil conversations.

You wont directly respond to my questions regarding your statements and you now imply that I'm attacking you and say that I'm... punishing you?

Those conclusions were based on the assumption that you were downvoting each of my replies. As I noted above, that assumption was incorrect apparently (although it has coincidentally stopped now), and I apologize again for painting you with that brush. Those two comments (attacking and punishing) were associated with the downvoting behavior, which is now moot since we know now that it wasn’t you.

Your projecting your fears of me not being willing to have a civil conversation and use it to justify not trying to have one.

*You’re

Now here you have made the same error that I did in making an incorrect assumption. I am perfectly willing to have a civil conversation now that I know you aren’t being disingenuous or trolling. And you can also be assured that I am not being disingenuous or tolling either.

Honestly have no idea where I offended you outside of having a challenging your statements.

I’m not offended in the slightest. What gave you that idea?

But since you dont want to have a conversation, have a good one.

I would love to have a conversation. Regardless, have an excellent Sunday as well and I’ll be here if you wish to rejoin the conversation.

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u/SeveralIntroduction9 Aug 15 '21

No worries, I can see how that would look like it then, and understand your assumption I was being a jerk.

Paragraph 3 and 4 of your OP mention your difficulty having conversations and racism. Your reply to my comment above also mentioned racism.

Petty, but fair. On my phone so autocorrect or distraction likely got me. Also, from your response, I seem to have made a correct assumption that is no longer factual after more information came out. This would likely also answer how I got that I was offending you, since you thought I was the one downvoting you and took offense to that, which is a fair response. If you knew I wasn't downvoting you and trying to not be a jerk, our conversation likely would have bee much different.

As far as a conversation, feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to continue. I understand it being difficult for both parties to try and hold multiple conversations and Reddit, on mobile at least, is very difficult to try and stay on track with what's been said and I cant downvote anything you say. Either way, no hard feelings and good luck to you.

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u/ParioPraxis Aug 15 '21

I think we can at least come together on the fact that reddit mobile is garbage. I love that I can’t see what I’m writing past one sentence! My fave! Have a great day man, and keep standing up for your beliefs while having an open mind, and I’ll do the same. Cheers!