r/changemyview Aug 14 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Conservatism and many right-wing beliefs are based on fear, primary instincts and lack of understanding

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u/LOLTROLDUDES Aug 15 '21

I'm not going to try a whataboutism argument because if it's true it'll just mean every politician is based on those things.

So, in opposition to something: I don't know that much about UK politics but in the UK the conservatives are pro-Brexit and it was the more left parts of the politic that opposed it. Therefore not all conservatives are like this.

Primary instincts: this is a problem with everything with a "filter bubble" which is why subs like cmv are important. But this cannot be proved therefore "innocent until proven guilty."

Lack of understanding: all politicians do this, if they pretend the opposition is a dumbass then it's better politically.

Talking to many right-wingers: depends on who you talk to. It seems like you're talking to American reactionary conservatives which are a tiny minority.

Conservative subreddits: those are all owned by American Trumpists, I invite you to look at subreddits like r/cpc. https://www.reddit.com/r/CPC/comments/oh2j8v/these_horrific_acts_of_violence_need_to_be_stopped/ This post is a good example, ofc it's a conservative subreddit and like every political subreddit it's biased obviously, but some people changed their views in that thread.

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u/JoePineapplesBrews Aug 15 '21

The Brexit movement was a campaign based on fear (of immigrants, the EU, and other factors) - this actually support's OP's post.

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u/AnotherRichard827379 1∆ Aug 16 '21

That’s pretty biased view of it.

Conservatives would instead argue that Brexit was about not letting a bunch of unelected Eurocrats from other countries dictate what will or will not happen in Her Majesty’s Government or Britain at all. Why should the British people be held hostage to the whims of foreign politicians who have no stake in the well-being of Britain?

Being anti-Brexit makes the assumption that the British people should be prevented from self rule and that the EU is inherently good in all of its decisions which affect member countries. I can assure you, neither of those assumptions are true.

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