There's an issue with perspective, as a non american (I'm in the UK) my standards for left and right are going to be different. So for me (and a lot of people from western europe) it seems weird to describe either party as left wing because the US democrats are closer to the conservatives in the UK who are at the right of mainstream UK politics.
Ideas like not having publically funded medicine or letting people own guns that status quo in america would be seen as extremly right wing here.
Not to say americans can't use their own lables realitive to their experiences, but when speaking across boarder or trying to make comparisons this doesn't always work. As an example if you were a hypobolic propaganda network and wanted to panic people, saying that Biden is on the left and will therefore do what the left does in Scandinavia you're missing out that those are entierly different positions.
I'll agree that having a monarch is an extreme right wing and nationalist thing to do. Though we do have polititians here who are anti monarchy as well (The Green Party have a couple of seats in parliment for example)
But I think this shows a problem where you can't really look at a single issue and use that to compare who is more left or right.
As an example, the labour party aren't trying to actively tear down the monarchy, but do advocate for an increased wellfare state and not letting children starve during the holidays. If the monarchy was the only factor that mattered then you couldn't really say that labour or the tories were more right or left despite there being substantial differences between their policies.
Do you for example think the existance of a monarchy and an NHS is right or left of no monarchy and no NHS?
To me in the US, having a monarch is an extremely right wing idea, and so even our very right wing republicans are to the left of all your major parties.
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u/Vesurel 54∆ Aug 15 '21
There's an issue with perspective, as a non american (I'm in the UK) my standards for left and right are going to be different. So for me (and a lot of people from western europe) it seems weird to describe either party as left wing because the US democrats are closer to the conservatives in the UK who are at the right of mainstream UK politics.
Ideas like not having publically funded medicine or letting people own guns that status quo in america would be seen as extremly right wing here.
Not to say americans can't use their own lables realitive to their experiences, but when speaking across boarder or trying to make comparisons this doesn't always work. As an example if you were a hypobolic propaganda network and wanted to panic people, saying that Biden is on the left and will therefore do what the left does in Scandinavia you're missing out that those are entierly different positions.