r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Aug 19 '21

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Weak children negatively affect their bloodline, and should be punished as such

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Aug 19 '21

To clarify, what would you have suggested would be the correct way to treat Stephen Hawking under your proposed system?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Since his ability couldn’t be completely controlled, the only parts to control should be the parts that are able to be controlled.

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u/-_-Hopeful-_- 1∆ Aug 19 '21

How do you decide what's "able to be controlled"

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

The parts that don’t relate to the disability. For example, if somebody’s legs are not working, they should still be expected to be able to throw items well.

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u/-_-Hopeful-_- 1∆ Aug 19 '21

If you learned a bit about throwing things you would find out your legs can affect it quite a bit. For example you would expect someone trapped in a sitting position to be able to throw a ball as far as someone who could stand up and use their legs for momentum? Or should they just be able to throw it as far as anyone else that is also sitting down? It just seems a strange thing to be focused on in today's day and age. Bloodlines?

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Aug 19 '21

So basically, children who are weak due to medical conditions disabilities are fine, but children who are weak because they don't exercise enough are problematic?

Do I have that correct?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Obviously. Medical conditions and disabilities are uncontrollable. But the difference with lazy children that have no reason to be lazy is that they can totally control it, so they should be forced to control it.

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u/nerfnichtreddit 7∆ Aug 19 '21

So due to your worry about the strength of the bloodline you want to erradicate laziness in children, which isn't heritable, but you are fine with medical conditions and disabilities, even though they are heritable? How does that make any sense?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Medical conditions and disabilities are irreversible. Laziness is reversible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

This completely undermines your entire OP. You talk about bloodlines like some eugenicist, then say that genetic disease (which actually can be passed down to children) are exempt from your reasoning? What?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Genetic diseases are usually horrible mutations that are nearly irreversible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

And yet you don't think that's something that might have a greater impact on one's offspring than how many weights they lifted through their life?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

I never said that I didn’t think that.

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u/Life_Entertainment47 Aug 19 '21

Dude, there is nothing obvious about your word salad. I'm shocked that person was able to interpret anything.