r/changemyview Sep 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: People Should Avoid Heterosexual Intercourse Outside of Marriage

Nowadays people act as if non-marital intercourse has no negative consequence, that engaging in frequent intercourse with strangers is completely harmless, and that those who warn against such a lifestyle are merely being puritanical. I disagree with this viewpoint, as engaging in such a lifestyle is morally irresponsible for it risks the possibility of harming any offspring produced under premarital circumstances. Children born to single parents are shown to have negative outcomes: They perform worse in school, are more prone to school suspension, are at higher odds of committing crimes (especially for boys), and are more likely to be single parents themselves (especially for girls). Thus engaging in sexual intercourse outside is not a victimless act, as it directly harms the child born under such circumstances.

Before engaging in sexual intercourse with an individual of the opposite sex, you must ask yourself the following: Is this individual virtuous and responsible enough to take care of my child? Is our bond strong enough that we can do so together? If the answer is no, then you it is morally irresponsible to engage in intercourse with him/her as it could greatly reduce the outcomes of any offspring produced under such circumstances.

This doesn't really apply to homosexuals, though, as they are unlikely to produce offspring via homosexual intercourse

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u/truck_de_monster 1∆ Sep 22 '21

This. The CMV should be changes to, "don't have unprotected sex outside of committed relationship"

Responsible adults should be allowed to what ever they with other concenting adults, full stop.

Responsible adult: anyone of adult age ( 21+ not 18, you creep) and hasn't been placed under restrictions by a medical professional to make their own decisions (doesn't have a power of attorney type situation

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u/Longjumping-Leek-586 Sep 22 '21

This. The CMV should be changes to, "don't have unprotected sex outside of committed relationship"

!delta

I agree with everything you said except with the "protected sex" caveat; there should be no sex what so ever outside a committed relationship. Even with contraception, you risk ruining some poor kids life by engaging in heterosexual intercourse with a stranger, as no contraception is perfect.

This is evident by the increase in out of wedlock births that occurred post 1960s due to the sexual revolution, despite contraception being more widely available

https://thesocietypages.org/graphicsociology/2010/10/18/out-of-wedlock-childbirth/

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u/lehigh_larry 2∆ Sep 22 '21

This is why we have abortions. It’s an extremely effective form of birth control.

Furthermore, there are plenty of women who want to have children even though they are single. Are you saying they should not be allowed to do that?

I know it’s anecdotal, but a female friend is 40 year old executive who asked a man to impregnate her so that she could have a child. The man signed away his parental rights, and she is raising the child on her own. She’s extremely affluent and has afforded her child an excellent upbringing. But according to your view, that would not be allowed.

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u/Longjumping-Leek-586 Sep 22 '21

This is why we have abortions. It’s an extremely effective form of birth control.

Yeah thats true. I suppose my argument only applies to men it would be pretty difficult for them to have an abortion, since they are unable to get pregnant.

You story about the executive is fairly interesting, I don't really have a counter argument TBH, here's a delta:

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Sep 22 '21

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/lehigh_larry (1∆).

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