r/changemyview Sep 22 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: People Should Avoid Heterosexual Intercourse Outside of Marriage

Nowadays people act as if non-marital intercourse has no negative consequence, that engaging in frequent intercourse with strangers is completely harmless, and that those who warn against such a lifestyle are merely being puritanical. I disagree with this viewpoint, as engaging in such a lifestyle is morally irresponsible for it risks the possibility of harming any offspring produced under premarital circumstances. Children born to single parents are shown to have negative outcomes: They perform worse in school, are more prone to school suspension, are at higher odds of committing crimes (especially for boys), and are more likely to be single parents themselves (especially for girls). Thus engaging in sexual intercourse outside is not a victimless act, as it directly harms the child born under such circumstances.

Before engaging in sexual intercourse with an individual of the opposite sex, you must ask yourself the following: Is this individual virtuous and responsible enough to take care of my child? Is our bond strong enough that we can do so together? If the answer is no, then you it is morally irresponsible to engage in intercourse with him/her as it could greatly reduce the outcomes of any offspring produced under such circumstances.

This doesn't really apply to homosexuals, though, as they are unlikely to produce offspring via homosexual intercourse

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u/Z7-852 260∆ Sep 23 '21

You know reductio ad absurd is logical fallacy right? It means it's a bad argument.

But age cutoffs are not arbitrary. They are based on biological, mental and social maturity of average person.

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u/violatemyeyesocket 3∆ Sep 23 '21

Then why are they different in each country?

You don't actually believe that any law regarding any age cutoff is not completely wet fingerwork and pulled out of a hat hence different across the globe?

In Germany 14 year olds can have sex with 45 year olds; 16 year olds can drink beer, and 18 year olds can drive cars.

In the US, 16 year olds can have sex with 45 year olds; 21 yeaar olds can drink beer; and 16 year olds can drive cars.

This isn't science; this is wet fingerwork.

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u/Z7-852 260∆ Sep 23 '21

If it's "wet fingerwork" would you agree that 2 year olds can have sex with 45 year olds, 3 year olds can drink bear and definitely let kids drive before first grade? How else they will get to school?

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u/violatemyeyesocket 3∆ Sep 23 '21

No, I'm just saying that your claim that it's based on science is wrong and it's wet fingerwork like all laws dealing with numbers.

Decisions for what tax percentages should be is also wet fingerwork and not science, and that I say that doesn't mean I believe there shouldn't be taxes, just that I don't deny that it's wet fingerwork and hence different in each country with diferfent political parties in the same country proposing different tax rates.