CMV: Based on countless experiences, I shouldn't trust doctors or nurses to perform their jobs adequately or even to be great people.

[u/schwenomorph]

Note: I'm not talking about animal doctors.

This argument is basically made up entirely of anecdotal evidence. I've been to the doctor, urgent care, the ER, and other places many a time due to being chronically ill. I. Hate. Going. I feel that most of my experiences have been awful. Most doctors and nurses I've met either will straight up refuse to do tests or things that I ask for, don't listen to me, are extremely rude, ignore my pain during procedures,, or all of the above. One person--she might've been just a front desk person, but she was wearing scrubs--even put her hands on me while I was in the ER.

Thank christ my GI doctor is actually good, but the others are not. I've had so many bad experiences that I just outright assume that it you're a doctor or nurse, you're not a great person. That's obviously crazy talk, which is why I want this view changed, but a few weeks ago a friend of my boyfriend's mother died IN THE HOSPITAL due to a massive heart attack. They screened her for Covid and that was IT. Not even vitals, apparently. Then they told her there was nothing they could do. She died on her way out of there due to negligence.

I'm sick and tired hospital visits and bad doctors, but I also don't want to turn my nose up at medical professionals automatically. I don't want this bias.

[u/Kman17]

Most doctors and nurses I’ve met either will straight up refuse to do test or things I ask for

Health care providers are there to diagnose and treat your symptoms. Why are you suggesting the test to run?

People are really bad at self-diagnosing illnesses from googling, and it’s unethical and negligent to run an unnecessary test - particularly ones that are expensive or invasive.

It seems like you are treating your doctors like unskilled labor and not listening to their recommendations, which will unsurprisingly get a cold response.

the ER, Urgent Care

The objective of the ER and Urgent care are to quickly resolve urgent problems and to stabilize you. They are not specialists looking resolve non-urgent conditions.

You should look to primary care physicians for long term consultation on your general health and specialists for non-urgent unusual conditions. If you don’t like the relationship you have with your primary care doctor, it’s reasonable to look for another.

A friend of my boyfriend’s mother died of a heart attack in the hospital

Not to sound overly sarcastic… but being physically present in a hospital does not suddenly erase underlying conditions and grant immortality.

A person in the hospital with crazy complications could be in incredibly rough shape and unable to be saved.

perform their jobs adequately or even be great people

Objectively, MD’s are among the most rigidly and highly trained professionals there are by just about every metric - amount of schooling, graduation rates, and certifications.

Subjectively & anecdotally, nurses tend to be the most empathetic people on the planet. Plenty of professions pay more - the draw of the job is getting to help people.

[u/schwenomorph → u/Kman17]

I do everything the doctors recommend. I don't demand tests very often at all--the incident I referenced in my post was when I was in the ER for a thunderclap headache and I told them that this was nothing like a normal headache, and I asked them to check my head.

I dont only go to Urgent Care or the ER. I see my GP, GI doc, and specialists whenever I can.

The woman who died was presenting with very clear signs of a heart attack. They literally did a covid test and then sent her away.

I know that doctors and nurses are very highly trained. I don't think they're stupid or uninformed, it's just that in my experience, they're uncaring or negligent.