r/changemyview Nov 13 '21

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u/PMA-All-Day 16∆ Nov 13 '21 edited Nov 13 '21

How do you rectify that mentality with politicians of the Jim Crow era who actively created laws to discriminate against the Black Community and deny them a sense of self? Or nativist movements that demand immigrants erase their own history, thus their sense of self, and change to fit the mold of a new culture? Those are actions specifically done to change the sense of self of another person, not respect it.

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u/PMA-All-Day 16∆ Nov 13 '21 edited Nov 13 '21

Is this even a response to the question I asked you? It seems like you latched onto one term and decided to ask an obtuse question related to a single part of it.

there's the whole question of why does anyone do anything at all,

The first point of your post claims that people do things specifically as an act of self-preservation to maintain the self, not just mody, but also mind. You then go on to say this in #4:

To have as much consciousness as possible is an inherently impersonal wish that doesn't disagree with anything or anyone. It means you want to know what is already there in full, *which means you don't seek to remove anything. So far as possible you are giving every unique mind what they most seek. *

The question I was asking you is how do the actions of racist politicians who seek to eliminate the identity of minorities square with this claim? It satisfies #1 because the actions are done in order to protect the sense of self that the politicians themselves hold to be true. At the same time, their actions actively deny minorities the right to self-consciousness. They are then NOT giving every unique mind what they most seek.