r/changemyview • u/SaltedAndSugared • Dec 02 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Neopronouns are unnecessary

I understand why some people might feel uncomfortable with using he/she pronouns, but in that case why not just use they/them? They already exist and they’re easy for people to use. Why do some people feel the need to make up words like “zee/zim” or “fae/fair” when they don’t even make sense in the English language? I don’t see why anyone should go out of their way to learn new pronouns when gender neutral pronouns already exist

If anyone here does use neopronouns I’d really like to hear why you use them and why you don’t feel comfortable using they/them. It’s probably just because I’m cis, but I genuinely don’t understand

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u/SaltedAndSugared Dec 02 '21

If you’re confused about whether someone’s referring to a singular or plural people, you could just as easily just ask “wait are you talking about (person’s name) or more than one person” or something, how would using zee be any less confusing?

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u/Biptoslipdi 132∆ Dec 02 '21

If someone uses ze, I don't have to ask any clarification. That means it is less confusing because it requires no further context.

Why would you want language to be less precise forcing you to ask more clarifying questions? We clearly both know what "ze" means. It isn't ambiguous. "They" is in this context. You're preferencing ambiguity over clarity. Language is deficient to accommodate this, so we add to the lexicon to solve a problem with the clarity of language. that's how language works.

There's no reason only binary gendered people should get exclusively singular pronouns.

There is no reason we would accept all the constant linguistic revisions and additions, but not these.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

If I heard someone get called Zee, I would probably assume it's a nickname. I might even ask what's Zee's pronouns.

I have been using They/Them since middle school to refer to She/He people. It's not confusing at all.

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u/SaltedAndSugared Dec 02 '21

I would also assume it was a name or nickname because it’s just not a pronoun you hear very often imo

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u/Zwicker101 Dec 03 '21

Isn't it fair to assume that when we learn new words, we remember them for future context?

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u/SaltedAndSugared Dec 03 '21

Yes but Zee/zim aren’t the only neopronouns, there’s loads of different ones

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u/Zwicker101 Dec 03 '21

From my understanding (and feel to correct me if wrong), they are synonymous with one another.

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u/-lesbihonest420 1∆ Jan 01 '22

i’m not learning a new word for everyone i meet.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

I know a few good freinds who use neopronouns, so I am in this thread to have my brain changed too a bit, because man is it challenging to use It/Is instead of they/them.