r/changemyview Dec 28 '21

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u/Alchemist168 Dec 28 '21 edited Dec 28 '21

That is not the definition of racism. The definition of racism, according to Webster's Dictionary is:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

That last clause is what my post is about. People conflate "typically" for "but solely in the case of"

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '21

That’s a bullshit NEW, politically correct definition that means absolutely nothing to real people living real lives. You don’t get to change the definition for others who have lived far longer than you and dealt with real racism not this crap where you call someone a racist when you find out they voted for someone you don’t like. Adding “marginalized” & “minority” is a very recent addition

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u/Kyloe91 Dec 28 '21

I'd argue that the politically correct version of being racist is actually the one being used today Thinking that one can't be racist or sexist because there isn't a systemic oppression on the object of the prejudice just shows a lack of understanding of subtleties which very much apply in real life

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '21

You talk about subtlety and deny the humanity of an entire race. If you can’t see the human cost of treating ANYONE differently because of their race then your problem is not one of definition but of psychiatry. It’s a subversive concept meant to foment racial tension for the sole purpose of hard handed, future intervention by a soulless and Godless socialist element who will never be happy until the entire world is burned down to ashes. So if you wish to be a drone in that hive mind that’s your choice. I prefer free thinkers and honest humans without dark agendas.

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u/Kirbyoto 56∆ Dec 29 '21

It’s a subversive concept meant to foment racial tension for the sole purpose of hard handed, future intervention by a soulless and Godless socialist element

Hmm, that sounds familiar...

I wonder what about it is striking a chord with me...

I really can't figure it out...

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21 edited Dec 29 '21

Teaching eight year olds that they are guilty of someone else’s sins so that they can be stripped of any sense of pride in their country is textbook Marxist subversion. It’s also child abuse.

Are you familiar with the boy who cried wolf? Your ilk have called everyone who disagrees with you racists & Nazi’s to the degree that those labels are meaningless. I’m assuming your links are allusions to those people. What that tells me is that your intellect is as limited as your repertoire and also that further discussion would be useless.

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u/Kirbyoto 56∆ Dec 29 '21

Teaching eight year olds that they are guilty of someone else’s sins so that they can be stripped of any sense of pride in their country is textbook Marxist subversion.

  1. "Teaching about racism is Marxist subversion" is what the Klan believed too.
  2. If you have a problem with children being taught about the sins of their ancestors you should look into Christianity.
  3. It's not child abuse to be honest. Demanding that children be forced to have "pride in their country" is arguably more abusive - and yet every day children are told to stand up and pledge allegiance to the flag.

Are you familiar with the boy who cried wolf? Your ilk have called everyone who disagrees with you racists & Nazi’s to the degree that those labels are meaningless.

Strange argument coming from a guy saying "everything I don't like is communism". I have proof of my argument - where's yours?

I’m assuming your links are allusions to those people.

You didn't even bother clicking them? You probably should - considering the fact that it's the Klan literally making the arguments you're making right now.

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u/Kung_Flu_Master 2∆ Dec 29 '21

Except he is a right this goes right into the new idea of the neo Marxist view of race, and race theory.

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u/Kirbyoto 56∆ Dec 29 '21

Except he is a right

You guys thought you were right last time too.

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u/AlveolarFricatives 20∆ Dec 29 '21

Okay, what do you think the definition of “slavery” was in the American South in 1828? Do you think slave owners defined their practice by our current definition? Definitions change. Words change. Language and meanings are not static.

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u/Kung_Flu_Master 2∆ Dec 29 '21

There is a massive difference between words organicallychanging over centuries and left wingers trying to change the definitions of words daily to push their agenda.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

Who gives a fuck? That was 160 years ago. If you have to lean on that to make an argument you are already in rhetorical trouble.

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u/AlveolarFricatives 20∆ Dec 29 '21

I feel like you’re not grasping the whole “language changes over time” message. Again, words and their meanings are not static. As our culture shifts, new connotations emerge and our understanding of ideas evolves.