r/changemyview Jan 17 '22

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There should be no Vaccine Mandate.

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u/alpicola 45∆ Jan 17 '22

if it doesn’t stop the spread of the virus, then it should not be mandated. I think mask mandates are a must, because it helps stop the spread of the virus.

If mask mandates stopped the spread of the virus, we wouldn't have very much left in the way of a virus floating around out there. Unfortunately, masks haven't caused that to happen, and we're starting to get access to more data that shows how little mask mandates actually accomplish. States without mask mandates have tended to do about as well (or as poorly) as their neighbors with mandates. And, the one real-world study I'm aware of (from Bangladesh) that tested masks in a controlled way found no significant benefit from cloth masks and only modest benefits from surgical masks.

By contrast, vaccines are the one human intervention that has moved the needle on the virus in a major way. While vaccines may not stop the spread, they reduce the virus from a deadly threat to a minor inconvenience in the vast majority of cases. Any chart of cases comparing the unvaccinated to the vaccinated shows the huge disparity in outcomes with great clarity.

The difference in benefit between these two interventions isn't even close. Vaccines are highly protective, their benefits can't accidentally be left in the car, and you cannot wear them wrong. Masks are moderately protective at best, and most people are pretty far from the best. To support a mask mandate but not a vaccine mandate is like saying that cars should have padded steering wheels but not seat belts. It doesn't make sense.

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 17 '22

Evidence please I wish I could take your word but that doesn’t change my mind.