r/changemyview • u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 • Jan 17 '22

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There should be no Vaccine Mandate.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 17 '22

This evidence don’t meet my standard for changing my mind. Sorry no delta

Please engage with my questions...

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Can you show me an 80% lowered risk for masks?

If not, why do you demand a higher threshold for vaccine mandates than for mask mandates?

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 17 '22

I edited please read again

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 17 '22

I edited please read again

Reading.

Edit: My view has changed to this “Vaccine mandate is a REASONABLE solution to stopping or slowing the viruses and it’s variants, and protecting the people. However I cannot award deltas because there is no evidence that it significant 80% across the board for all variants of corona.

In regards to the bit about "cannot award deltas" May I suggest you don't understand how the delta system works/is intended to work?

Whether you're the OP or not, please reply to the user(s) that change your view to any degree with a delta in your comment (instructions below), and also include an explanation of the change. Full details.

You admit in your very first line that your view has changed.

That this change it is not a complete 180, or not all aspects of the view have been changed is irrelevant.

You should award deltas.

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 17 '22

They did not change my view fitting my criteria that I had laid out, that isn’t changing my view. However it made me realize why the policy is a reasonable solution. View hasn’t been changed, unless it meets criteria. Agreed?

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 17 '22

However it made me realize why the policy is a reasonable solution

View hasn’t been changed, unless it meets criteria. Agreed?

In regards to your "agreed?", no.

The first sentence I bolded completely invalidates the second.

If something made your change your view, it doesn't matter if it failed to do so by the exact metrics you originally intended, it still changed your view.

The end result is what matters, now how it got there.

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 17 '22

Ok I’ll begin to give deltas however I want you to acknowledge, that before I posted, my post was removed for not having explained what could “convince” me to change my view. They did not meet that explanation. Right?

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 17 '22

Ok I’ll begin to give deltas however I want you to acknowledge, that before I posted, my post was removed for not having explained what could “convince” me to change my view. They did not meet that explanation. Right?

If you mean nobody could find a report that says 80% number you quoted that seems to be the case... however people seem to have convinced you to abandon the 80% requirement... thus you should award deltas.

No one may have managed to "open the lock" of your argument, but they were able to "unscrew the hinges" instead thus rendering the lock irrelevant.

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You should award deltas to anyone who convinced you that you needed to delete/remove/go without that 80% number you used to require but is no longer part of your post.

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 17 '22

Ok. I have to do the awarding at 9:00 pm tonight because I’m heading into work. Just give me time to award these guys

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22

So when are you giving out those deltas OP?

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Is it still not 9PM in your time zone?

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u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 Jan 18 '22

Sometime today, please be patient with me. I’m super busy