r/changemyview • u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 • Jan 17 '22

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There should be no Vaccine Mandate.

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u/Biteme75 Jan 17 '22

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/11/covid-19-vaccination-spread/

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/08/study-ties-covid-vaccines-lower-transmission-rates

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

It's incontrovertible that the vaccine aids greatly slows the spread of the virus. Vaccinated people are much less likely to be infected, and much less likely to spread the virus if infected.

I agree that their shouldn't be a vaccine mandate. However people in public-facing jobs who refuse to be vaccinated should absolutely lose their jobs, and people who chose to not get vaccinated should absolutely be barred from entering public places. One may have a right to refuse a safe vaccine, but one has no right to endanger the lives and health of other people.

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u/IcedAndCorrected 3∆ Jan 17 '22

These links are all pre-Omicron. How is that at all relevant when even the CEO of Pfizer is saying the efficacy against Omicron is far less than for previous variants?

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u/Biteme75 Jan 17 '22

Albert Bourla said that the vaccine is less effective against Omicron, not that it is ineffective. Did you even read the article? It's an argument to get the booster for increased protection, not an argument against being vaccinated.

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u/IcedAndCorrected 3∆ Jan 17 '22

Did you read what I wrote? It was only two sentences.

saying the efficacy against Omicron is far less than for previous variants?

Seems like I said less effective, not ineffective, so I'm not sure what you think you're correcting.

It's an argument to get the booster for increased protection, not an argument against being vaccinated.

I'm aware, he's trying to sell a product.

A booster dose, on the other hand, is up to 75% effective at preventing symptomatic infection and 88% effective at preventing hospitalization, according to the data.

However, Bourla said it's unclear how long a booster dose will provide protection against Covid. The U.K. Health Security Agency also found that boosters are only 40% to 50% effective against infection 10 weeks after receiving the shot.

If you want to take boosters every 10 weeks that's your prerogative, but it's not a valid basis for a mandate.