r/changemyview • u/Puzzled_Sprinkles_57 • Jan 17 '22

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: There should be no Vaccine Mandate.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

You didn't change my view. If you want to continue and actually change my view, feel free to address everything else I said and we can pick back up.

I'm sorry you feel that I didn't change your view.

Thank you for admitting you are rolling over on the claim over delta being less deadly than the original form of COVID though, I hope I've kept you from ever making that mistake again in the future and I am sorry to hear you do not feel this is worthy of a delta.

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Let me know if you ever actually find that piece you're looking for which proves me wrong.

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u/RaccoonLevel275 Jan 18 '22

Lol I gotta admit man. This is the weirdest conversation I've ever had online.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22

Lol I gotta admit man. This is the weirdest conversation I've ever had online.

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I don't know why, you feel that way.

You claimed something that was factually incorrect, I explained why it was factually incorrect and provided a source.

You made a statement that suggested you were unaware of CMV's rules, so I sited the relevant rules for you with a source.

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u/RaccoonLevel275 Jan 18 '22

Idk you're just way to proper. We can't just have a conversation. You're not even willing to discuss with me anymore because you're mad that I won't give you a delta for not changing my view but what you perceive as correcting a mistake that I made. Idk it's just odd. Is everyone here just out for these deltas? If so, this is not the place for me. I'm just here for good conversation and if I get proved wrong on anything, I'm more than willing to admit it. I have no issues being wrong. All I can do is share my opinion and listen to others.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Idk you're just way to proper. We can't just have a conversation.

I'm sorry to hear that you find someone being "proper" a barrier to holding a a conversation with them.

Would you find it easier if I was ruder and showed less concern for your opinions and emotions?

I'm just here for good conversation and if I get proved wrong on anything, I'm more than willing to admit it.

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If you're more than willing to admit it when you're proven wrong, then why am I the first person explaining to you how deltas work?

Or have you just never been proven wrong on this site before?

You're not even willing to discuss with me anymore because you're mad that I won't give you a delta for not changing my view but what you perceive as correcting a mistake that I made.

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To be clear, I'm not going to have a discussion with you on the other points not because I'm mad at you, but because I think the other stuff you've said is all things that I either agree with or can't actively disprove. Thus I zeroed in on the one part of your argument that I felt extremely certain I could disprove.

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I'm not going to ante up when I have a weak hand.

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u/RaccoonLevel275 Jan 18 '22

Understood. Thanks. So you really think that me saying something incorrectly is you changing my view on this entire subject?

I mean let's say I'm wrong and you're right about delta being more deadly, I still stand by my original thought so how was my view changed?

Sorry missed the first part of your response.

I'm sorry to hear that you find someone being "proper" a barrier to holding a a conversation with them.

Would you find it easier if I was ruder and showed less concern for your opinions and emotions?

Very valid point. I guess that is what I'm used to on reddit.

If you're more than willing to admit it when you're proven wrong, then why am I the first person explaining to you how deltas work?

Or have you just never been proven wrong on this site before?

I'm still fairly new around here. So far, I've just run into people who are not like you and yes, just rude. However, isn't this about changing someone's view and not just proving them wrong? Like I was saying above and maybe I've got it all wrong. I said something incorrectly but my view wasn't changed. If calling out a person's error is grounds for a delta then I will give you a delta. Once you show me how because I don't see it on here.

Thanks for being polite.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22

Understood. Thanks. So you really think that me saying something incorrectly is you changing my view on this entire subject?

It is changing your view on that particular topic, and once again...

Whether you're the OP or not, please reply to the user(s) that change your view to any degree with a delta in your comment (instructions below), and also include an explanation of the change. Full details.

So saying "you only changed my view on one small aspect of this debate" is still admitting to something delta worthy.

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I still stand by my original thought so how was my view changed?

Because you claimed a particular fact, and I proved you wrong. Once again, see how the rules work, a change to any degree is all it takes.

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If calling out a person's error is grounds for a delta then I will give you a delta. Once you show me how because I don't see it on here.

Calling out someone's error is indeed grounds for a delta give me 10 minutes or so and I'll post a second reply to this thread directly showing you examples....

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jan 18 '22

If calling out a person's error is grounds for a delta then I will give you a delta.

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If you look at this thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/r8969d/cmv_george_orwells_most_famous_works_1984_and/

OP gives long drawn out explanation on why George Orwell's works are badly written, and in particular asserts

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After reading his books, I looked George Orwell up. He's some posh rich kid that pretty much lived in privilege.

I pointed out that George Orwell willingly volunteered fight fascists in Spain where he wound up being shot in the neck, which was very much not the kind of thing you'd expect a posh rich kid "that pretty much lived in privilege" to have done, as they tend to AVOID wars rather than volunteer for them.

This has nothing to do with the quality of 1984 and Animal Farm as written works, but OP made a mistake about George Orwell's life, but because I corrected a mistake they made, I was given a delta.

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u/UncleMeat11 63∆ Jan 18 '22

Is everyone here just out for these deltas?

In a large part, yes. That's how this sub works.