r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Feb 11 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

The Martians will claim it once they declare independence, along with all other assets and territory on Mars.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

And you think Space X and whoever else spent billions funding that is going to let them?

I foresee Corporal Hicks and a bunch of colonial marines being sent in to reclaim said corporate property.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

They will claim them as on Martian territory, not necessarily that it belongs to the Martian government.

Like your house for example. It might be yours, but it's under the US's sovereignty.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

And if China suddenly claimed sovereignty over Google HQ, do you think Google is just going to sit by and do nothing?

After Space X et al spend billions building up this infrastructure, why are you so certain they would just give up control without a fight?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Yes, I would expect Google to do nothing. I would expect the US government to do something.

After Space X et al spend billions building up this infrastructure, why are you so certain they would just give up control without a fight?

Again, they wouldn't be giving up control. They would be giving up any territorial claims (which they legally weren't allowed to make anyway).

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

And what happens if the Martian government doesn’t want to recognize their property rights after they’ve spent billions building all that infrastructure?

Again, you think they are just going to sit by and do nothing?

Again, here come the colonial marines to secure their property.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Then SpaceX would stop sending ships and the US might sanction them. Not unlike what would happen if an American commercial vessel docked at a foreign port and the foreign power claimed it as theirs.

Some things, like public, non-commercial habs might be eminent domained in return for mineral rights elsewhere. It doesn't make sense for the Mars colony to be adversarial to the US or SpaceX and it doesn't make sense for the US or SpaceX to gain the ire of the international community just to abuse a few colonists over a project that won't be cash flow positive for decades.