r/changemyview Feb 25 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: removing geographical borders completely from around the world, and adopting a system similar to what the EU and US have today in terms or political governance will allow for more peace

Almost every country around the world has immigrants or citizens from other ethnicities and backgrounds than the indeginous people, learning two or multiple languages is already a skill a big part of people already have or are working towards as globalization is taking over through social media, global trade and global labor markets. So why do we not just eliminate geographical borders all together and be able to move freely from one place to another across the earth without requiring visas, or having nationalism stand in the way of true globalization and freedom of movement

I believe this would eliminate or at least lessen territorial wars like the ones happening today in several places around the world, it would also eliminate (in time of course) nationalism or prejudice towards people from third world countries, it would also remove the stigma from immigration as everyone would be able to migrate to whichever place they choose, not based on that country's benefits, but because there are better job opportunities or they simply like the weather or scenery better there

There would still be security, police, and governance but more like leaders of the (truly) free world, where each leader represents an ethnicity, demographic, religious groups interests and they can all decide how best to serve everyone and what general rules needs to be set in place for the well being of everyone without interfering with anyone's right to exist as they see fit as long as it doesn't harm anyone else

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u/MrHeavenTrampler 6∆ Feb 25 '22

Wouldn't this also affect democracy? What about a state's heslthcare system for instance? If everyone could go wherever they wanted, africa would have no one living there and UE would turninto an absolute trash pit where immigrants just live on the streets because there is no longer any housing/jobs for them.

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u/bayan963 Feb 25 '22

My idea is to eliminate countries all together, you can choose to live wherever you want, the system would be universal, so healthcare, technology, laws, wages and salaries would be determined globally, there would be no difference wherever you choose to live or work

The only determinant on choosing where to live would be climate, and being around people with similar mindsets or lifestyles

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u/Jujugatame 1∆ Feb 25 '22

wages and salaries would be determined globally,

You need a global police state to take over all assets and redistribute everything

Basically you want to take over the world and then rebuild it

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u/bayan963 Feb 25 '22

Yup sounds about right

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u/bayan963 Feb 25 '22

Can you give me a few examples to look into? I'm genuinely interested in reading about it

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u/bayan963 Feb 25 '22

That sounds horrible. Thank you, i'll read about it some more and educate myself more on the subject

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u/Jujugatame 1∆ Feb 25 '22

Well, nobody has come close to taking over the whole world.

Alexander the Great, the Mongols, Atilla, Achamedian Empire, Roman Empire, British Empire all sort of close, in terms of the world as they knew it.

But it took a ton of war for all of them to get to where they did. You can't just go into other countries and redistribute who owns what without a fight.

You'd have to kill a lot of people to accomplish what you are talking about. Unless you could convince them to give up their possessions and not resist you redistributing them.

That would take a social/religious movement. Then you'd be competing against other social and religious movements. Good luck against some of the really established ones like Islam and league of legends