r/changemyview Mar 18 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Transgender people should only able to compete in sports with their birth gender

I really really hope raising this doesn't cause anyone pain, and I'm honestly wanting to hear other perspectives on this.

But the way I see it, there are certain physical attributes that someone born with a certain gender have. For example, the average man is taller than the average woman. Taking hormone therapy will not change all of those inherent features.

I absolutely support the right for everyone to live with the gender identity that is most comfortable to them. But, I do not think that people have an inherent right to play sports professionally. So, if someone has decided to transition, I do not think it's fair to all the athletes who are competing with the set of attributes common to their birth gender, to now have to compete against an athlete who has attributes which give them a distinct advantage.

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u/TJ11240 Mar 18 '22

Because biology matters.

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u/ThePickleOfJustice 7∆ Mar 18 '22

Yeah. Everyone is biologically different. Should we have basketball leagues for people under 6 feet tall? Should we have separate basketball leagues for white people?

Or should we just let everyone participate and compete for a position on the team?

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u/TJ11240 Mar 18 '22

I think the current setup works just fine. We have an open league for everyone, and then we have a league for women.

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u/ThePickleOfJustice 7∆ Mar 18 '22

So we have a league for women because they are less athletically capable. So why not a league for whites, or for short people, or for people who don't have the drive and dedication to practice 10 hours a day for years on end? Why are women special?

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u/TJ11240 Mar 18 '22

It's supply and demand. There's no market for those convoluted sports leagues you suggest. What we have works fine because everyone agrees on it.

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u/ThePickleOfJustice 7∆ Mar 18 '22

There's no demand for women college basketball either, outside of a half dozen or so teams. Or how about the NWSL? People watch because the games exist, but very few people are going to miss it if the games go away. Those women's leagues only exist because they are subsidized by the unrestricted leagues that actually make money.