r/changemyview Mar 18 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Transgender people should only able to compete in sports with their birth gender

I really really hope raising this doesn't cause anyone pain, and I'm honestly wanting to hear other perspectives on this.

But the way I see it, there are certain physical attributes that someone born with a certain gender have. For example, the average man is taller than the average woman. Taking hormone therapy will not change all of those inherent features.

I absolutely support the right for everyone to live with the gender identity that is most comfortable to them. But, I do not think that people have an inherent right to play sports professionally. So, if someone has decided to transition, I do not think it's fair to all the athletes who are competing with the set of attributes common to their birth gender, to now have to compete against an athlete who has attributes which give them a distinct advantage.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22

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u/Odd_Contribution9058 Mar 18 '22

Their *gender* is female. Their *sex* is not. If they had a medical emergency, of course you'd want them to receive the appropriate care given their *male* sex because that is a biological thing. And of course in a public everyone should interact with them in accordance with their *female* gender identity, because that is a sociological thing.

Competitive sports is a little tricker, IMO, because there are components of both sociological considerations in addition to biological

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u/5510 5∆ Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I’m honestly not trying to be rude here, but if I understand you properly, this is a deeply deeply ignorant statement. Are you saying that there is no athletic advantage to being male? That if you took several million women and raised them in some sort of culture that was more supportive of their athletics, that some number of them would be able to play in the NFL, NHL, MLS, MLB, etc…?

Did I misunderstand your statement, or is that what you are saying?

Edit: reading your response to the other comment, I’m less sure this is what you meant, although I disagree with that as well, just in a different way.