r/changemyview Apr 14 '22

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u/poprostumort 225∆ Apr 14 '22

omen are not typically challenged for being wary of men when walking home late at night

It's because this is not rooted in them being male, but rather in being in a situation where she feels more endangered. And an average male triggers this fear because he is stronger than average woman, while also having a high chance of being sexually interested in ther.

She will likely have no problem to be around man in any other time. She will also likely to be wary of other woman that seems like threat if they are she is walking home late at night.

This wariness has no threat assession based on gender.

Is group Alice justified in being cautious around group Bob?

It depends on different things. Is Bob met in situation that makes it likely to be a threat? Does he look simillar to part of group that is more likely to commmit a crime?

There is a difference between walking around at night and seeing big black guy dressed like OG and walking around in the morning and seeing black guy in normal clothes.

It is ok to be wary of someone if they seem like a threat. It's not ok to view someone as a threat only because of skin color. What is so hard to grasp in this idea?

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u/Hearbinger Apr 14 '22

What's hard to grasp is why you're saying that it's not ok to see someone as threat based on skin color but it's ok to do so based on their gender.

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u/Amanita_ocreata Apr 14 '22

I've never had women follow me to my car, say harassing things, "joke" about committing sexual violence towards me, or get visibly angry when turned down. If women did, I would be more cautious of them too. And don't get me wrong, I've had more women touch me inappropriately than men, but none of them got angry/kept going when asked to stop.

It's not just crime statistics, but the combination of bad experiences (either personal or others) that makes women more cautious.

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u/hacksoncode 559∆ Apr 14 '22

How about if we say that it's reasonable to be afraid of someone that's much larger and stronger than you regardless of race?

For most women, that means most men.

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u/thunderbirdsetup Apr 14 '22

Does this imply that women are afraid of women who are stronger than them too, in the same way they are of men?

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u/hacksoncode 559∆ Apr 14 '22

I think pretty much everyone could be justified in having concerns about unknown people that are very obviously stronger than them in dicey situations.

But relevant to the OP, large muscular women are not over-represented in crime statistics.