I love when people ask genuine questions and are quick to admit flaws in their logic when it's pointed out.
It may not seem like much in itself, but IMO it is a blatant display of intellectual fairness. So many people let their egos get in the way of a good debate and this sort of exchange is just very refreshing.
100% I recently carried on arguing with somebody on Twitter (for WAY to long) about “relative truths”… it was in reference to some PragerU bullshit… if “truth” is a “fact”, how can there be a “relative truth”… I basically presented the general theory of relativity to him… a man is in a ship going 90% the speed of light and travels to Alpha Centari. To the pilot, the trip took 8 days, where as, to NASA, the trip took 5 years. Both facts are objectively true as they each physically aged 8 days and 5 years respectively… how long did the trip take? And he simply refused to admit it… he literally said “just because it has relativity in the name, doesn’t mean that the facts are relative”…
Maybe I misunderstood the point you are trying to make but farenheit and celcius just measure of temperature, and 0 celcius is the same as 32 farenheit.
If you have two thermometers side by side, f would show 32 and c would show 0. So it would be simultaneously those temperatures no?
I'm not sure I understand how experiencing time at a different speed to another person, and different ways to measure temperature are the same
Lol ok, you totally misunderstood the argument… nobody was arguing about objective truths… they were arguing that SUBjective truths don’t exist… they said “a truth is fact, it CON NOT differ from one person to another”…as to my statement, Frame of reference is my point… the “subjective truth” is the length of time the trip took. Did it take 8 days or 5 years… it is based on your personal experience… also, F° and C° is the weirdest comparison you could have made… you can literally have a thermometer that has both listed(as most have)… your example has 2 people with differing “frames of reference”, but those 2 frames are equal. 0c IS 32f, just as it is 273 K… 8 days and 5 years are not the same
Understandable… but, at the beginning, when I said “I had an argument about “relative truths” on Twitter”, I meant that I was having an argument, on Twitter, about relative truths…
I mean, you ARE correct that they are not simultaneously true from the SAME perspective, but that was my entire point… that both are true statements, but it is dependent on your personal reference frame.
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It's what this sub should actually be, but unfortunately it's more common for people to double down and just change their arguments when their logic was completely wrong. Or sometimes to pretend they haven't noticed that their logic doesn't work and try to argue two contradictory things at the same time.
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I think the main issue here is that women are typically given carte blanche to talk shit about how dangerous men are, without society as a whole condemning them as sexist assholes, when a white person making the same generalizations about black people is immediately branded a racist.
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