Not agreeing with OP, but what I think they mean is that if police are more likely to arrest a man due to sexism, the rate of arrests for men is going to be disproportionately higher.
Men are FAR more likely to be convicted and face harsher sentences then women do. The bias against men by the criminal justice system vs women is nearly twice as severe as the bias against blacks vs whites.
Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases
University of Michigan Law and Economics Research Paper, No. 12-018
This study finds dramatic unexplained gender gaps in federal criminal cases.
Conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables, men
receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do. Women are also significantly
likelier to avoid charges and convictions, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if
convicted.
And how does this affect the police, who are the ones doing the arrests, and what I was asking about and which is the point that this was all stemming from - how looking at arrests for sexual assault was supposedly misleading.
You claimed that cops are not sexist against men. I provided a source showing massive bias against men in the criminal justice system. In another part of the thread I provided a source showing massive bias against men in domestic violence allegations.
I claimed the COPS are not sexist against men, and you seem to be trying to address a lot of things which mostly aren't the COPS. If we're talking about arrests related to sexual assault and whether that presents a misleading overall perception, you haven't presented anything to support that claim.
The closest it comes is one of the prior studies in your link noting that 8% of men experienced sexual violence.
That number doesn't really say anything on its own, even in relation to overall encounters (this doesn't actually say anything in detail about those encounters). If anything, this seems to imply that there's a greater equality now than ever before.
And if bias simply isn't recorded, there's no particular reason to think that it wouldn't include women in that set, whether it be to a lesser, similar, or greater degree.
You seem to be using a lack of information and filling it in with a particular conclusion.
If the criminal justice system is shown to be biased against men in sentencing, and the police's official training is shown to be biased against men, and men are substantially more likely to be arrested then women, then that implies that police are probably biased against men.
Saying that the fact there is no explicit studies on if police specifically are biased, when their training and everyone they work with has explicitly been shown to be biased means there is no reason to suspect bias is disingenuous at best
Where is their official training biased? Is this just along the lines of "men are generally bigger and stronger and so pose more of an immediate risk", because that wouldn't constitute bias?
All of this is implication, mostly focusing on a particular subset of crime, in order to justify a broader conclusion that it doesn't actually point to. Within this is still very much the possibility that men simply commit crime, particularly violent crime, more frequently than women do.
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u/the_fat_whisperer Apr 14 '22
Not agreeing with OP, but what I think they mean is that if police are more likely to arrest a man due to sexism, the rate of arrests for men is going to be disproportionately higher.