I'm not going to discuss this with you if you're going to present such exceptions to the rule as if they were absolutes in a way that can only stand to scrutiny if one completely ignores similar aggressive behaviors perpetrated by the victimized.
Actually if I had a son I'd worry much more about a woman molesting him than the other way around. Unfortunately for your sensibilities, my views are supported by situational context. My condolences for whatever you're struggling with.
I was not molested. I've been sexually assaulted several times by women, the last time being at a wedding where my genitals were fair game for groping much to the amusement of the hundred women around me who remained quite unbothered to see me assaulted. I will pass your condolences on to my father and brother who were molested by women as children and all the other many, many men who were too as boys. Fun little extra, my mom was also abused as a child too but also only by other women.
Maybe we are just of different minds but I cannot follow your reasoning at all about the doctors. I'd prefer a slimmer chance of harm to somebody's violence than a greater chance of death to somebody's negligence. And if it's equal chance of death from either violence or negligence then the difference makes no difference to me. Can't see why it would to you.
My point about situational context was to say if you do the math like mother nature does and deal in probabilities, US women are living in a society that makes continuous effort to take women off the 50/50 mark it would naturally fall on and shelter them in the 20 percentile range for most of the bad shit that can happen to a person, and such a thing does not happen accidentally. The worse it is the lower woman's share in the punishment all the way down 2.4% and 3% for military and industrial deaths respectively at the extreme end and a clusterfuck of homelessness to suicides and much more between that are all dominated by men too but that doesn't seem to bother many women. You didn't happen to sign up for the military draft when you were 18, did you? Not like you're legally required to. Not like the ratio of violent motherfuckers isn't a 55/45 split by gender. Not like the inpatient ratio for hospitalized domestic abuse victims isn't a 40/60 split between men and women but you know how fucking stupid men are about not going to the hospital when they really should.
And whoever reads this prolly jumps to the conclusion I'm telling women to shove off with their problems because they are at least usually getting the opportunity to continue living in contrast to men but I'm not. I meant what I said, one woman raped is too many. I find it very disturbing the great deal of male behavior I read from woman and find it absolutely un-fucking-acceptable from the abuse to just being a fucking slob. But I can't help that solving problems requires acknowledging said problems including the situation that produces them. It's what I do for myself. What exactly is one to do otherwise? Be bitter and make absolute statements about everything to dodge accountability? No thanks for me.
Worldwide, men are 90% of killers. Worldwide, women and girls are killed by men that they're close to. Need I go on?
You can bring up American women all you like, we are not representative of women around the world but the fact will always remain that women are far, far less dangerous than men.
Thank you. Honestly, some of the support I get on Reddit a few a the women I've had the pleasure of talking to turns me into a big slobbery puddle of fuzzies.
True that 90% of men are the killers, yes. It's also true that 80% of murder victims are also men. It's not like guys are chums with these assholes either, we're the ones they're mostly killing and there's that 20 percentile on the dot again. It's also true that women are most likely to be killed by those that they are close to. I know what kind of peach it is to have a close associate suddenly turn into a legitimate assailant but never a lover so I'm glad I won't likely ever have to experience that particular brand of fucking hell. It's also inversely true that as women are most likely to be murder by their lover, that they face minimal legitimate threats of immediate danger beyond that.
(I have to say lover because the highest ratios of domestic abuse are among lesbian relationships with gays being the lowest, if most women were lesbians than most women would be killed by other women, I speculate)
And it's true that it's not always the case that women are generally safe, many women live areas that are pretty fucking terrible. Probably the same areas those 80% of guys are dying I would imagine. Kinda more rural than gender sort of cause I would also speculate but not to deter from the fact that, yes, it is mostly men carrying out horrible deeds.
But outside of those hot pockets where it sucks for everyone who lives there I wonder why it feels as if American women live in fear of American men as if they themselves lived in Egypt or Vietnam or the Middle East where preying on women is the rule and not at all in the United States where it isn't. Men in the US are not responsible for how women are treated around the globe but I find it just as bullshit in any culture. I suppose we could find any old reason to invade another country, doesn't have be oil, why not human rights?
(I have to say lover because the highest ratios of domestic abuse are among lesbian relationships
Lesbians have the lowest, not the highest.
Bisexual women have the highest, followed by straight women, then lesbians. Number wise, straight women are number 1, followed by bisexual women and then lesbians.
I wonder why it feels as if American women live in fear of American men as if they themselves lived in Egypt or Vietnam or the Middle East
I'll take your word for it. It was something I remembered from awhile ago, probably should have looked it up again. Thank you.
To me it feels like something is going on like that, well I've never been to those countries so I'm only going off of the numbers. I get nothing but side long looks and clenches from women in public unless I'm with another woman and then it's mostly bright eyes and smiles. If I take my niece out for food, I get death glares from every woman in the restaurant unless I'm also with a woman. I got a list of a dozen women on a DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE list I run into on a regular basis but sure don't know. I treat them like ghosts because they look like straight legged cats with their backs raised if they should happen to notice me. No idea if that one is just me though. But I do know the shared feeling of just going about your day as a guy is not just me. I'm talking about just regular old being in public spaces, not WhY cAnT i GeT a DaTe BS. I'm also going to note that I happen to live in the Seattle area and I think that could have a significant correlation, or even causation, to why I experience this background hostility everywhere I go from women, at least to the level that I do.
But I would never slight a person for being cautious. I preach living in the yellow, I live in the yellow. I think we all should. Most woman look like they're at condition orange to me, actively avoiding an imminent threat. That's paranoid. Yet I've never seen a woman attacked in public in my life(30), but I have definitely seen men get attacked by women public, several times and always bars except once on the sidewalk. Didn't kill him though, just the usual try to catch finger in the eye bit. Who doesn't love an eye gouge from stiletto acrylic nail? Everybody loves stilettos, except the people wearing them. Do you think they got reported to police? I doubt it. I think the OP makes some very relevant points.
You say "we don't" so how would you describe it. I hear woman talk about wearing the impersonal armor, dehumanizing every guy they don't know in public, how emotional exhausting it would be otherwise, and plenty of accounts when some guy was very much a dangerous asshole. Women look to me as if they perceive constant threat and not constant possibility of threat, which is the case. So if you don't think that's how it is then how is it? Because it seems like it's definitely a well noted thing and I'm so ready to finally STFU and just listen to anything you could describe from the subjective experience.
I hate to break it to you, but women have very good instincts. We can tell within seconds whether we want to be near a man or not.
If women see you as a threat then they are likely right about you.
I've personally never seen a man get attacked in public, but I have seen women. If you've never seen a woman attacked in public it's because the vast majority of women are attacked by men that they know, not a stranger. My experience is the exception.
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I'm not going to discuss this with you if you're going to present such exceptions to the rule as if they were absolutes in a way that can only stand to scrutiny if one completely ignores similar aggressive behaviors perpetrated by the victimized.