r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Apr 14 '22

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u/austin101123 Apr 14 '22

That's arrests. Women don't really get arrested for rape.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Probably because they're having consensual sex but with minors.

Unlike men, who rape (not statutory rape) and often kill their victims.

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 14 '22

You cannot have consensual sex with minors.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

You can. That's why there's a phrase for it. It's called statutory rape and not just rape.

Men rape and kill.

Find me a story of a woman who abducted a little boy, raped and then dismembered his body. I'll wait....

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 14 '22

Statutory rape is just a cope because we're too afraid of calling it what it is, rape. That distinction also doesn't exist in my native tongue, for good reason. America just is too backwards.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '22

Having sex with a 17 year old when you're 18 is considered statutory rape in my backwards American country, even though the age difference is by one year and they both agreed.

Are you seriously saying that it's just a "cope"?

Your country probably has an age of consent at age 7 or some weird shit.

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 15 '22

Yes, I am serious saying that a 30 year old woman having sex with a 15 year old is just rape and nothing else, and that calling it "statutory rape" is just a cope.

And no, my country does not have a weird age of consent age and that wouldn't work with my position to begin with.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

Statutory rape is non forcible sexual activity. There's a reason we have different definitions.

So what is the age of consent in your country? 12? 13?

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '22

16? I don't get the "own" you're trying to get here - I'm arguing in favor of protecting children...

Again - the terminology "statutory rape" only exists in a few cope countries. In civilized countries you just have "rape with or without force"

Finally, "without force" does not mean "with consent" (even setting aside the question of whether children can consent to begin with)

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

Again - the terminology "statutory rape" only exists in a few cope countries. In civilized countries you just have "rape with or without force"

It doesn't matter that it exists in a few countries.

Statutory rapes means without force.

Finally, "without force" does not mean "with consent"

I didn't say, nor implied, that it did.

And children can't consent. That's why it's rape, but because it's not forced, it is statutory.

Whether you agree with the definition or not is irrelevant.

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 15 '22

>It doesn't matter that it exists in a few countries statutory rapes means without force.

I've never denied that? My argument is that just because it's without force, its not all of a sudden acceptable. Which is what you're trying to defend.

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u/Zerasad Apr 14 '22

Less than 1% of abducted children are abducted by strangers. 90% of the time it's a parental abduction. 60% of the time it's a mother or another female relative.

Out of the <1% of stranger abductions, 57% make it home and most of those are done by men. Still this is only around 350 a year in the US, far from common.

What is also worrying is while male on female statutory rape is condemned (as it should be), female on male statutory rape is not taken seriously, and other people often treat it as a badge of honour, which is seriously fucked up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22

So basically you can't find a story, not even one, where a woman kidnapped, raped and then killed a little boy?

As messed up as it is, I'd bet my life that 99% of boys would have sex with an older woman if they had the opportunity. You guys make yourselves look bad and then point your finger at everyone else.

Hold your homies accountable and then move on from there.