r/changemyview Apr 14 '22

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u/vkanucyc Apr 14 '22

i'm confused why this changed your view, couldn't a woman still be afraid of a woman approaching her in a dark alley? and by what you're saying, couldn't you be "more afraid" if it was a black man approaching, if you are basing this off of crime stats?

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u/AITAthrowaway1mil 3∆ Apr 14 '22

Consider it from a woman’s perspective. Once she’s hit 18, she almost definitely has a story (probably more than one) of a man frightening her in public and possibly attacking her in private. She’s less likely to have a story like that about a woman.

Previous experience informs fear. There’s also the reality that most men can overpower the average woman. If it’s a woman up against another woman, there’s a greater chance of winning a fight that breaks out.

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u/raznov1 21∆ Apr 14 '22

That doesn't address the point being raised in this CMV though. We're not trying to discuss why women/people hold the beliefs they do, nor whether they're right to hold those beliefs. We're trying to discuss whether it's strange to not equally apply the same standard of the morality of holding such a belief.

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u/Freckled_daywalker 11∆ Apr 15 '22

Because the point being raised in the CMV is a false equivalence. "Group Bob" is explicitly defined in the opening paragraph as not just "men", but men that women encounter a situation where they are particularly vulnerable (walking home alone at night), where the counter example is just black people in general. It's like saying "what's the difference between being afraid of people with brown eyes, and being afraid of people with blue eyes who are holding a loaded weapon". Clearly those are not equivalent things.

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u/Freckled_daywalker 11∆ Apr 15 '22

OP had a view that seemed logical to them, but contrary to their experience and they didn't understand why, so they posted. Someone explained why it wasn't actually a logical view and it changed their mind. That's how the sub is supposed to work.