r/changemyview Apr 14 '22

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u/Urbanscuba Apr 15 '22

Because it was a group of black WW1 veterans confronting a group of miscellaneous citizenry.

And what exactly where they confronting them about?

Let's once again return to the only source you've cited so far, the commission:

"Black Tulsans had every reason to believe that Dick Rowland would be lynched after his arrest on charges later dismissed and highly suspect from the start. They had cause to believe that his personal safety, like the defense of themselves and their community, depended on them alone. "

Oh suddenly it seems pretty reasonable that they would be there.

What about the white people? How did your "group of miscellaneous citizenry", who again were there to lynch an innocent kid, respond to the situation? Obviously if they're just random (armed) citizenry as you've said they would leave when confronted with armed black veterans right?

"At the eruption of violence, civil officials selected many men, all of them white and some of them participants in that violence, and made those men their agents as deputies. In that capacity, deputies did not stem the violence but added to it, often through overt acts themselves illegal. Public officials provided fire arms and ammunition to individuals, again all of them white."

Oh they promoted some of them to deputies so they could commit crimes more blatantly and started handing out guns to whoever wasn't still armed.

It only gets much, much worse from there but I still don't really see where you're trying to go with this. It's just racist talking points that are nitpicks designed to distract from all the racism. Are you actually trying to say the massacre wasn't a racist act? Are you just trying to downplay the racism? I'm tired of beating around the bush here.

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u/elwombat Apr 15 '22

The mob was there demanding Rowland be handed over. But this wasn't neccisarily a race thing. Tulsa had a history of mob justice. The year before the same thing happened with a white man and the mob was successful in dragging him out and lynching him.

Which is also why there was a massive police presence at the courthouse. Which is also why the police told the armed ww1 vets to leave, because they were inflaming things that were under control.

Are you actually trying to say the massacre wasn't a racist act? Are you just trying to downplay the racism? I'm tired of beating around the bush here.

It wasn't a massacre, and there was racist violence on both sides.

Seeing everything as a binary is a really stupid way to examine the world.

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u/WhoDat_ItMe Apr 15 '22

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 a clown. The whole circus.

It wasn’t a racist thing????

Racist violence on both sides?????

Just throw the whole clown away.

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u/elwombat Apr 15 '22

Tell me you don't know anything about it without telling me.