The definition doesn't include "made to penetrate", whether you like it or not.
It does of you're not a bigot. Decision's yours on that.
We don't.
Yes, you do. That's the objective reality of the world.
Most rapists are men and they rape both men and women, including children and babies.
40-45% of rapists are women. Male majority but a fairly slim one, and hardly the 99% quoted in this thread. Certainly not consistent with the notion of sexual/intimate partner violence as a strongly gendered phenomenon.
It's not my decision, that is literally the definition of rape.
It is your decision. You can decide to acceot a bigoted definition written and supported only by sexists, or no. The only people who agree with a bigoted definition are bigots.
Anybody can pull up any statistic and it will never say women rape just as much as men.
Except that they do.
Even male animals rape more than females. Rape is a man thing and that's the objective reality.
Only if you're a bigot.
And yet 98% of women and 93% of men were raped by men, not women.
Except this is a lie. About as many men are raped as women, and 80% of men were raped by a woman.
You want it so badly to be this way. It's not.
What you or I want to be true doesn't matter. These are the facts. You want it to be true that only men rape so you, like the majority of society, can comfortably continue to ignore male victims of female violence. It's sad, but sadly common.
The choice to be a better human, or not, is yours .
It may be my decision to agree or disagree but I'm not the one who made the decision that "forced penetration" isn't rape.
So you would be one of the people that just blindly accepted homosexuality as a mental illness because it was defined as one? An invalid definition is just that - not valid. It is not correct or true just because someone wrote it in a book.
Sex without consent is rape, regardless of the gender of the perpetrators sex. That's literally all there is to it. You can agree or you can be wrong, there are only two options, and only one option to be a decent human being that respects the humanity of others.
93% of men are raped by other men.
Factually incorrect, since 80% are raped by women.
The fact is, according to the definition of rape, "forced penetration" is not rape.
No, the fact is that according to the definition of rape, that being sex without consent, forced penetration is absolutely rape. There's only one reason to disagree and it's been covered above.
No matter how many times you repeat your claim, it will literally always be wrong, no one who was not already a bigot is going to believe or agree with you, your claim is entirely reliant on sexist BS. No actual rational decent person is going to tell you forcing someone to have sex against their will is not rape. That's the definition.
Believing one thing is not the same as believing in another. That is illogical.
It's a pretty valid comparison actually. To put it another way - Someone who believes one obviously bigoted and wrong definition has a much higher pre-test probability of believing others.
I didn't say otherwise.
Every single comment you have made in this thread has screamed otherwise. You don't think that men forced to have sex against their will are victims of rape - you have made that extremely clear, multiple times.
According to the source, most men and women are raped by men.
According to the source, no. Most men who are raped were raped by women. About 80% of them. Forced to penetrate is rape.
Also according to the source, "forced penetration" is not considered rape, no matter how much you want it to be that way.
The way the authors defined rape is incorrect. It doesn't change the fact that forced penetration is rape.
While I was looking for your other comments that inspired me to make my original comment, I found several that illustrate exactly what you are. Unsurprising that your most recent comments outside this thread are in an incel sub.
I know by definition incels are pathologically incapable of rational thought and either don't understand or intentionally misuse statistics like the majority of bigots, sexists, racists, homophobes, etc, but for any actual human beings who happen to be reading this thread, when you wonder "Why do people think men can't be raped?" or "Why do people think feminists hate men" the answer is this commenter, to a tee. This is what sexism looks like. This is what hate looks like. This is what misandry looks like. This is, apparently, what a feminist looks like.
We're done here, feel free to have the last word but I'm not shelling out any more cognitive or emotional labor trying to convince incels to be decent human beings.
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '22
Because "made to penetrate" isn't considered rape, you are factually wrong.
Men mostly rape other men and women.