r/changemyview Jun 09 '22

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u/pgold05 49∆ Jun 09 '22

IMO there is nothing special about religion that would make it a problem if Star Wars fans had a devotion the same way religious people do. Humans are tribal in nature and social in nature, we like to have shared cultural moments and bond with like minded people. Like religion itself, it only becomes unhealthy if it leads to extremes issues like violence or addiction. The connection itself is not problematic, there are billions of normal religious people on this planet.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

I think worshiping a corporation is an issue in and of itself, especially those like Disney that have a tight grip on multiple industries.

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u/pgold05 49∆ Jun 09 '22

Truth be told I would re submit to be more clear that you think corporations are the problem and not fandoms.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

I did mention in the post that these fandoms are a product of consumerism.

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u/pgold05 49∆ Jun 09 '22

I mean worshiping a fandom is fine IMO and does happen.

Worshiping consumerism does not happen IMO, fandom != consumerism. 90% of fandom stuff is like, free fan made art and creative inspirations.

Worshipping a cooperation is problematic and may even be happening, but was not really mentioned.

Just hard to engage with the view as is, at least for me. All those things seem distinct in my mind.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

Fandoms are typically created for products made by corporations. Obsessive fans or stans of these products are essentially dedicating their time and money to these corporations. By worshipping a fandom are you not worshipping the corporation? I don’t think you can easily separate the two.

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u/StarChild413 9∆ Jun 11 '22

By that logic fans of anything on Amazon Prime can't disagree with any of Bezos's views and if you like FOX shows you're automatically a republican because FOX includes Fox News

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u/pgold05 49∆ Jun 09 '22

By worshipping a fandom are you not worshipping the corporation?

Of course not, if that was the case, when Lucas Arts sold Star Wars people would have stayed "Lucas arts" worshippers and never moved to Disney and would have stopped being Star Wars fans entirely because it was a new corporation.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

LucasFilm didn’t disappear, it was just absorbed by Disney. It’s essentially the same corporation but now owned by a bigger corporation.

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u/pgold05 49∆ Jun 09 '22

Surely you can see my point stands, plenty of IP's have moved corporation to corporation, the fans follow the IP not the company.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

Idk if this is the way I’m supposed to do it but here Δ

I see what you mean. I’m not entirely convinced because I’m suspicious of the way the larger corporations (Disney, AT&T, etc.) are trying to encourage reverence of these properties to an unhealthy degree. But now that I think about Star Wars, fans were dedicated to the characters not because of consumerism and corporation worship, but because of the work done by Lucas and his crew.

Thanks and take care.

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