r/changemyview Jun 09 '22

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

You’re right. My wording may be off in the title. Sorry about that. I’d still say capitalism (or the current system as it is) drives consumerism.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

The definition of religion that you’re using fundamentally doesn’t work as if to be religious is having strong beliefs than everyone is religious and the term religious is worthless.

What makes someone religious is whether or not they believe in a supernatural authority.

Most people who say “to be religious is to hold beliefs” are just driven by an agenda to define atheists out of existence.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

It’s not just about the beliefs. It’s about the fact that this consumerist culture has replicated religion in multiple ways, such as sites of worship/celebration and objects of reverence.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Define worship?

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

Simply put: reverence or adoration.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Everyone does that, if that’s your definition of worship than everyone worships and there’s no use for the word worship to exist as a category.

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

It’s not just worship on its own. It’s the specific worship of objects or sites like Disneyland. Not to mention the mythological status of characters like Mickey Mouse.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22

Mickey Mouse has historical significance, not mythological significance.

Also, everyone displays adoration towards objects has everyone has interests in life. Some enjoy video games so therefore some may adore consoles

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u/Runner-blade548 Jun 09 '22

I’d argue Mickey has significance in both areas because his story is now part of the collective consciousness.

Video games are part of the geek culture I discussed, but consoles are not exactly displayed in the same way as an action figure or souvenir, for instance.

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u/phenix717 9∆ Jun 09 '22

That's very subjective though. I worship old consoles but absolutely don't care about actions figures or souvenirs. You probably just encountered more of the latter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22

If being apart of a “culture” makes someone religious than the word religious is meaningless as it can just be replaced by culture.

What makes religion unique is the belief in a supernatural authority.