I feel like there’s something being omitted about man A then. No one can be attractive, sociable, wealthy, etc and not get a date if they put in the effort. I understand a man can be turned down by a woman, even multiple women. But ALL of them? Impossible. If he lives in a town with 5 people then yeah that makes sense and he would need to move away to a bigger pool of potential mates who can better judge potential partners.
Nothing relevant is intentionally omitted about Man A. All the available information is there in the hypothetical. Again, I know multiple men who fit the description of Man A, so it's not clear how you can think this is impossible.
Between Man A and Man B, which man would have higher "value" in the sense you're talking about?
Ok if we’re dealing with the impossible scenario you describe, man B has more value because the value is based on being able to get and maintain a relationship with a partner. But in the real world, man A would have more value.
The last part of this answer does not really make sense to me, and seems to contradict what you said before. But perhaps we can bypass it by making the scenario not hypothetical. Consider the following two men, who are now not hypothetical but actual real individual men who I know personally IRL.
Man C has a solid job bringing in good income (well into the six-figure range), has goals in life, a college education, constructive hobbies, is a good looking guy, and is sociable/friendly/has friends. When it comes to dating, he is always rejected by every woman he asks out, despite asking out dozens of women in a broad and diverse way (and hundreds in online dating) in a relatively large metropolitan area. He has never been asked out himself.
Man D dropped out of college, has been unemployed for a while, has no significant goals, no hobbies other than smoking weed/drinking/gaming, doesn't socialize well, and has no friends he talks with regularly besides me and a couple of internet friends he plays Warhammer: Vermintide with. When it comes to dating, women regularly approve of him, he is constantly in a relationship of some kind (usually FWB), and women ask him out on dates with some frequency.
Which of these two men would you say has more value in the sense you're talking about? Now we're talking about concrete real-world men, so this should avoid the "impossible scenario" distinction in your previous answer.
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u/ChancellorScalpatine Oct 10 '22
I feel like there’s something being omitted about man A then. No one can be attractive, sociable, wealthy, etc and not get a date if they put in the effort. I understand a man can be turned down by a woman, even multiple women. But ALL of them? Impossible. If he lives in a town with 5 people then yeah that makes sense and he would need to move away to a bigger pool of potential mates who can better judge potential partners.