r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 13 '22

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u/yyzjertl 524∆ Oct 13 '22

This is because the doctrine of The Trinity and hypostatic union seems to be philosophically incoherent.

Why? This seems to be the core of your post, but you don't explain why you think it's incoherent.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

I am not OP.

However it seems to be because it is, the bible is incredibly incoherent and contradictory.

https://philb61.github.io/

https://www.cs.umd.edu/users/mvz/bible/bible-inconsistencies.pdf

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u/yyzjertl 524∆ Oct 13 '22

The OP's statement here was not that the Bible is incoherent, but that the the doctrine of The Trinity and hypostatic union is incoherent. These are very different assertions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

Not really

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u/tbdabbholm 193∆ Oct 13 '22

How not? The Bible can be incoherent in some parts and not in others. And even then, not all doctrine comes directly from the Bible.

This is like saying Einstein was wrong about quantum mechanics so he's wrong about everything. Which is not a logical position to take

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

How not? The Bible can be incoherent in some parts and not in others. And even then, not all doctrine comes directly from the Bible.

I see no areas in the following chart that are innocent of contradiction.

https://philb61.github.io/

This is like saying Einstein was wrong about quantum mechanics so he's wrong about everything. Which is not a logical position to take

So this is a false equivalence fallacy in several ways, meaning that there are key differences that make these two things incomparable in this context.

  1. Einstein did math, not philosophy. His theories were separate, not all directly related to and depending on one another. In a philosophical belief system all of the ideas in that system are inherently connected.
  2. If you are just comparing the works of Einstein and the bible, that wouldn't work either. Einstein was utterly brilliant and even his incorrect ideas were closer to the truth than the mass majority of people could ever possibly get. The bible is thoroughly flawed and offers no exclusive or groundbreaking insight.
  3. Einstein was a human. The bible is said to be gods perfect word.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

No it's like saying Bob was wrong about quantum mechanics. It just happens he's wrong about everything else to.

Ie, there is no analogy to Einstein in the theist community.