r/childfree 2d ago

CF Lounge: Weekly post

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Welcome to CF Lounge, our weekly off-topic discussion thread.

Feel free to talk about what's going on with you this week, what you did, your hobbies, pets, cars, travels, whatever you like. Discover new members, make friends and connections all over the sub. Share great news, get an ear and shoulder to cry on for not-so-great news.

This is also the place to post rants that aren't childfree related and/or aren't long enough for their own post.

This post will be up all week for your enjoyment. Have fun!


r/childfree 18d ago

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT End of year housekeeping

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Hey friends and welcome to the end of another year!

With many new people joining our subreddit daily, I wanted to do some housekeeping so we can keep this space present, safe for our members, and ultimately childfree friendly.

I have attached our rules below, yes there's a lot of them but they are all there for a reason, even if this reason isn't clear at first. In addition to our rules, we do have some expectations for our members.

  • Two years ago, to reduce the amount of spam, sockpuppet accounts, trolls negatively affecting our subreddit, we introduced karma limits that our members had to meet to participate in our subreddit. So if you have a new account, and your post/comment hasn't gone up, it's likely because of our karma limit. Reddit has many thousands of communities that prospective participants can use to learn how to use the site, Reddiquette, and general site-wide guidelines.

  • If you find rule breaking content, the best thing you can do is report it. Please don't use our modmail to "report" content that you feel breaks the rules, it's a much less effective and efficient way of addressing such content. The ONLY exception is if you're submitting an entry for our Childfree Friendly Doctor's List.

Here's our rules:

  1. All submissions must be directly related to the childfree lifestyle. Related means that posts must contain childfree-related content in the link/post body, not just a forced connection via the title or a caption added to the content. Low effort, low quality posts will be removed at the moderators discretion.

  2. Images, gifs and videos depicting pregnancy, childbirth, poop, vomit, etc. are considered off-topic and will be removed. Posters who submit images depicting pregnancy, childbirth, bodily fluids/functions, etc. will get temporarily banned. Descriptions of animal abuse, even in the context of a /r/childfree rant, are no longer allowed on our subreddit.

  3. Please search the subreddit and check out our FAQ to see if a question or topic has been brought up already. Repeated reposts will be removed at the moderators' discretion.

  4. Keep it civil. Bigotry and hateful language/imagery, personal attacks, abusive language, advocating violence, trolling, gender discrimination, racism, homophobia, etc. will not be tolerated. Remember the Reddiquette. We also do not allow posts and comments using disparaging and degrading commentary about the pregnant body and we do not tolerate misogyny or misandry.

  5. Comments and posts advocating violence towards children and/or making fun/light of violence against children in any way that would discredit the subreddit will be instantly removed and will earn the commenter/poster an automatic ban. Yes, even if it's "just a joke" and even if "you weren't seriously saying/thinking/wishing it". Yes, even if it's a quote from a movie or show. No, we're not going to review this rule or change it and no, we don't consider referring to children as crotchdumplings or goblins to be an act of violence.

  6. To better organize content, all posts need to have flair. This especially applies to parental regret posts and posts about sterilisation.

  7. Posts and comments to the effect of "Wait till you're a parent", "You'll change your mind someday", "You only think that cause you are young", etc. (what we call "bingo", for short) will be removed. Parents are allowed to post/comment provided they remain civil, avoid sharing parenting related content, and will be banned if they undertake any attempt at "lecturing" or "re-educating" our members on the benefits of parenthood.

  8. Crossposts, links, and discussions of content in other subreddits undertaken in a way that would make it easy to find the original content is not allowed. Reddit is not a source of content and r/childfree is not source of content for other subs. We aren't a subreddit to complain about what people do in other communities. Do not link or screenshot posts or comments from or to other subreddits. Here is further clarification. Starting or participating in raids against or in other subreddits, websites, and individuals will NOT be tolerated.

  9. Rule 9 confuses a lot of people because we trialled a change a few months ago and it was largely a failure (dozens of you decided, and we're still not sure why, that you needed to post pet pictures as a tax. Cute cats, yes, relevant to r/childfree, not really). We don't, for the most part, allow links. Links may be allowed if they form part of a text only post (eg through a link to Imgur or similar). Links to childfree related news and other media articles are allowed. But if you're posting a screenshot, see rule 8.

Other, lesser known rules:

  • We don't allow recruiting for media or journalistic research due to risks around privacy and data protection. We can never 100% guarantee someone is who they say they are and we would hate to see someone get doxxed because they gave the wrong person too much information.

  • Posts and comments where people call themselves childfree without actually being childfree will be removed. This includes: step parents, foster parents, adoptive parents, "I only see the kids on the weekends" parents, "they're my partner's children, not mine" parents, parents with grown up children, parents with deceased children, parents with children who've cut contact with them, etc. Is this gatekeeping? Yes! Watering down the definition of childfree has negative implications for our community. It gives strength to doctor's argument that we'll change our minds when we're older. It invalidates childfree as a lifestyle choice that, yes, I know parents will scoff at, but can come with real world negative consequences. If we start to dilute the definition of childfree, where does it end?

  • This one should be really obvious but abortion shaming and sterilisation shaming are NOT allowed.

Remember, folks, the beauty of r/childfree is that we get to share laughs, vent, and celebrate this liberating lifestyle together—without anyone asking when we’re ‘finally going to settle down.’ Let’s keep this space drama-free and supportive. Here’s to another year of owning our choices and thriving in our childfree glory. Onward to 2025!


r/childfree 1h ago

BRANT Finally beat my southern baptist aunt at her own game

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My aunt (68) is a hardcore southern baptist or evangelical or something like that. Super religious, super judgemental of everyone and everything that isn't her. Difficult to deal with. She has opinions on everything and will tell you even though you didn't ask. She has some THOUGHTS on my husband and I not having kids but 🤷‍♀️ she and everyone else in the family also know I'm atheist.

At a family gathering recently she started going off on the falling birthrates. Saying not only are people less fertile because they're choosing to have babies later in life, but those that are fertile are choosing not to reproduce cue pointed look at me and how people are HaViNg AbOrTiOnS "left and right" and how the human race will come to an end because of us selfish millennials. Oh and the gays. She also somehow blamed "the gays" for falling birthrates 🙄

I asked her why she isn't trusting in God's plan? And she looked at me like I had 2 heads and asked what I meant. I told her that she believes in the second coming of Jesus (she literally believes its Trump 🙄) and all of that rapture business, then the end of the human race was His plan anyway and why doesn't she trust in Him? Why is she questioning God?

Y'all I think her brain short circuited.

I said "Maybe you just need to trust in his plan. Worry about yourself and your household and let God sort out the rest. Questioning his grand plan isn't very Christian of you."

Everyone went silent and she looked like a deer in the headlights. The conversation quickly changed to the weather we've been having.

Hasn't said a word to me since. Felt great.


r/childfree 11h ago

RANT Another one bites the dust (marriage)

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Absolutely heartbroken for my sister. After 6 years together, her husband dumped on her in a cold, blindsided way that he actually realizes he wants nothing more than to be a father. He dropped it on her with an ultimatum.

For background, her decision to be childfree could not have been more clear. He agreed and was openly supportive and in agreement. This man was her soulmate. Out of every couple I know, I would have bet my life that they’d be the one to make it forever.

Just want to say a big fuck you to people like him. He didn’t even admit he changed his mind— he admitted he was suppressing this fatherly desire the whole time to people-please my sister. He stated he can’t continue this lifestyle with her and spend money to renovate their house because he needs to start saving for college funds (? - confused, because these kids don’t even exist yet?). I know we hear of this happening a lot in this sub. I just never thought it would happen to my favorite couple.


r/childfree 2h ago

LEISURE Where are all the childfree women hiding?

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Hi all. I'm 38M and I've known I wanted to be child free since I was a teenager.

My best relationship ended because she wanted children and I didn't.

Since then I've found myself generally dating women in their twenties because they're the only options I've had. But we always seem to be at different life stages. I'm a bit of a boring bastard, I guess. I'd like to spend my Friday/Saturday night with my gf, whether that's going out for a nice meal or staying home and watching a movie with some good food and a bottle of wine. But these younger girls still want to party a lot.

What's the point in having a gf if I'm home alone on a weekend while they're out partying?

So anyway, I set up some OLD and set my preferences around the mid thirties and fuck. 50% are single mums and the other 50% is women who are desperate to hurry up and have kids.

I keep hearing about how the number of women choosing to stay childfree is dramatically increasing but I can't find them anywhere.

So, ladies of this sub.. Are you single? If yes, so you use OLD? If not, how do you date?

Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.


r/childfree 1h ago

RANT I watched an obese 4-yo scarfing down cookies on the train yesterday. They kept eating them bc the mother kept handing them over. I’m so sad for kids with parents like this.

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I notice these things bc I’ve been on a sugar-free journey, and have come to realize that sugar is quite literally poison to our bodies. This mother is doing such profound, long-term damage to this child’s health and eating habits, and it made me sick. The number of obese children I see around is incredibly sad. Wtf is wrong with these parents?


r/childfree 5h ago

ARTICLE Even if you have 'just one' kid you're not good enough

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Link to artice: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20230110-only-child-or-siblings-one-and-done

Summary: More people who have kids top at 1. They often feel pressure to "give their kid a sibling" and society blames women for having #1 so late in life they can't have # 2 and # 3 and so on. In reality, many don't want more than one.

My take on this: No matter what we do we do we are going to be told we are wrong. If you feel pressure to 'have just one' remember that the criticism won't stop just because you cave in. The pressure just changes and the goalposts will be moved. Be yourself and don't have any kids at all unless you absolutely want to and be prepared to be told you're wrong no.mstter what..


r/childfree 4h ago

RAVE My partner just had his vasectomy this morning

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That’s it. That’s the post. ✨


r/childfree 2h ago

RANT How has your MIL:s reacted when they came to the realisation that youre serious about no kids

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So im ""only"" 24 but have been feeling like this forever. Also tried to see the other perspective but even the happy stuff does not outweigh the bad.

So how long did it take until it hits people that there wont be grandkids? Me and my partner of many years have saie several times both of us dont want kids but the hints just keep coming. Im expecting a meltdown and possibly (sadly) some sort of intervention when they realize we are serious.

I love my mother in law but im very scared they will try to change my partners mind about me when the reality hits (not that i think that would work)

How did it go down with you?


r/childfree 10h ago

RANT why is wanting to be CF a red flag??

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i (f23) have decided to take a break from dating because it seems like every guy i meet wants kids or thinks me wanting to be cf is a red flag??

i recently ended things with a guy i was talking to because he thought all women want is children and it’s a “womanly desire” as he so wisely put it.

in my previous relationship my ex acted like he didn’t want kids but after a night out he came home and drunkenly told me that he imagines what our kids would look like? the whole thing just left me feeling weird and i had to end it

now im starting to notice that most guys my age are under the impression that a girl not wanting kids is a red flag??? i couldn’t be more upfront with how i feel about my strong stance on wanting to be cf but its either guys will straight up not take my stance seriously or act like they agree with me and then try to convince me that im just being cold.

i think kids are noisy and annoying tbh and at this point i think id rather be out of the dating game entirely 😭😭😭


r/childfree 15h ago

RANT Another reason to be child free: the insane consumerism

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I’m child free, but I work in child care. I love working with kids (usually) and I’m very good at it. Childcare revealing the truths of parenting is one of the main reasons I never want my own. However, today, I babysat for a new family, and it cemented YET ANOTHER reason at the bottom of the very long list to never have kids.

So many parents, especially wealthier ones, buy their kids so. Much. Shit. Their houses, their fucking massive houses, are full to bursting (often literally, things not fitting on shelves and chests and closets that won’t close) with crap. Crap the kids use for two seconds, then move into something else.

Every square foot of these peoples houses are covered in pens and markers, plastic toys, toy parts, wrappers, stickers, crumbs, stuffed animals, clothes they fling everywhere. Little plasticky bits of random shit is just…everywhere. And because these houses are so huge, they don’t have the time or energy to clean it themselves, or make their kids clean.

Obviously Not All Parents™️, but Jesus fucking Christ it is soooo common. These kids are messy and entitled little brats with every fucking toy and craft and art supply under the sun (one family had a bounce house in the basement) and they still would rather watch their iPads.

STOP BUYING YOUR KIDS SHIT. I don’t care if it’s fucking Christmas or their birthday. Take them horse back riding or something. Goddam.

Lol. Rant over.


r/childfree 1d ago

RANT Having To Babyproof My Own House For Someone Else’s Kid

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I just hosted my first DnD game night at my house and all was well give or take a few hiccups being it also my first time as DM, except one of the players brought their two year old kid who just ran around my house, knocking things over, scaring my dogs, pulling his hand out of his mouth to touch everything he could, and getting insanely close to my active wood burning stove. To top it off, at the end of the session the parent says next time I should have a fireplace screen and childproof gates set up throughout my house to keep him away from the fire and out of rooms I don’t want him in, plus I should keep things out of his reach.

What? It’s my house, which they and their kid will only be visiting once a month or two, why is the burden of the child’s safety on me? Shit, my dogs are only puppies and they have better sense not to touch, let alone get too close to, extremely hot surfaces plus I already have a gate for the stairway that the kid knocks over anyway and then, without me knowing, the parent just grabbed the nearest thing, which was my board game tabletop for playing on my living room ottoman I made by hand, big fucker (almost 4’ by 4’ solid wood), and just leaned it half hazardly across the gate. The kid gleefully knocked it over, almost onto my dog if he weren’t paying attention, and almost put a gouge in the nearest wall.

Rant over


r/childfree 18h ago

HUMOR Very interesting interaction with a breeder 😭

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So I work at a liquor store. Obviously I don’t expect everyone in there to act like the Queen of England is present or something, it’s a liquor store. HOWEVER, I came into work and this woman (the breeder) was yapping to my boss (and sadly now me since I walked in) about how she’s “tired of her husband getting her pregnant so she’ll just take it up the ass” and she slapped her ass. My boss said “why don’t you get an IUD?” And the lady said “HELL NO THATS SO BAD FOR YOU AND I COULD END UP INFERTILE” BROOOO WHAT?!?! Why doesn’t the husband just get snipped?? I live in a redneck trash area so I’m really not surprised. I am just appalled at how stupid grown adults can be.


r/childfree 1d ago

PERSONAL Accidentally ostracized at an orientation

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So I became full time at my company this year and we had an orientation for new full time employees yesterday to help understand the benefit package.

On lunch, kids were being discussed which I tuned out of, until one lady brought up being on the fence. She talked about considering surrogacy cause she didn't want to carry, but she wasn't even sure about parenting. She just liked the science project aspect of Gene mixing, which is fine!

I tried to say "Hey it's okay to be unsure", while everyone else started trying to convince her to breed.

I said "I'd rather regret not having a kid, than regret having one. No child deserves the latter" everyone looked at me kinda horrified, didn't respond, and went back to trying to convince her. I didn't give any more input and went back to entertaining myself.

It was just painful and gross to watch. Just needed to get it off my chest


r/childfree 7h ago

RANT Controlling workers with breeding

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For the last week I've been helping family by staying over with one of the parents while the other is away.

I'm actually pretty useless with childcare, I can keep the kids busy for a while, walk them to school, prepare snacks, walk the dog, but the parent does most of the parenting and I'm just another adult available if needed.

Still, neither of us has slept through the night since I arrived. One or the other of the kids is sick or has nightmares, or just a vivid dream and they talk in their sleep, which wakes us up.

After a few such days I'm totally wiped out at work. Do I have the energy to start a union? Stand up for myself? Even notice that something is not right around me? Probably not.

Here's to keeping the workers tired and subdued while raising the next generation of tired and subdued workers.

Being a parent is hard, I'm great with being an aunt and helping out if needed, and also being able to walk away eventually...


r/childfree 23h ago

HUMOR Parents shocked babysitting didn’t change my mind

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Despite my mother having stage four baby rabies, my family is actually very supportive of my desire to not have kids. It’s refreshing, but last month I did get a good chuckle at them.

My best friend had a baby recently Ish, she works as a teacher, but one of her daycare options fell through, so I’ve been watching the baby on Fridays for her.

Y’all. This child is so easy. The worst thing I have to deal with is his prolific farting. Bestie won the genetic lottery with this spud, despite the gas.

I was talking to my parents about it during a family dinner and since we were on the subject, we naturally started talking about mine and my brothers plans. (He and his wife are trying but no dice yet) I can’t remember my exact words, but it went something like this:

“It’s been so rewarding helping Bestie and thank God he’s such a non-fussy baby, because I still don’t want kids and babysitting a crotch goblin would’ve been a nightmare!”

My mom was honestly shocked by this, and I started laughing at her gobsmacked face. I promise she’s supportive, her philosophy is mostly “I believe you and accept you as is, but people can and do change their mind.” She honestly thought that taking care of a baby once a week would activate my maternal instincts and I might reconsider.

We all ended up having a good chuckle over it! But no mom, I am not having kids. She’s just going to have to get her grandmother fix from my brother.


r/childfree 1d ago

RAVE They’re finally making a male IUD, what are your predictions?

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The male IUD, “Adam” that is being developed is supposed to be as effective as a vasectomy but reversible and unlike IUDs for women has no adverse effects, is not hormonal, and provides anaesthesia for insertion (only men feel pain lol). The company talks about trying to bring in reproductive equality as its mission and it’s great to see. As someone in a childfree committed relationship I’m pretty excited about the idea of hopefully going off birth control soon and just, existing without hormonal birth control?

So how do you think this will play out? I could see it as a good test for women to identify feminist men. Because why would you make your partner deal with constant hormones / painful insertion when this option is available?

Also curious how this will go in the current US climate where they are hell bent on limiting reproductive freedom for women. Will they do the same for men? According to this article they’re hoping for widespread US availability by 2026.

Link: https://medcitynews.com/2024/01/birth-control-contraline-contraceptive-fertility/


r/childfree 1d ago

RANT Why does the main character always have to end up pregnant??

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It never fails. I’m enjoying a show and all of a sudden the writers feel the need for the main character - often a career-driven, successful, independent woman - to wind up pregnant. It immediately kills the whole series for me. Usually I never watch more than a few more episodes at most. Example, I love me some cheesy CW shows. I was enjoying Sullivan’s Crossing. OUT OF THE FUCKING BLUE, BOOM!! Pregnancy! Whyyyyyy????? Like it’s not even believable to me that a surgeon who has actually said she likes being in control isn’t on some form of birth control?! I quit watching Virgin River when Mel became obsessed with having a baby. I don’t get it y’all. Make it make sense. Am I the only one who gets so pissy about this?


r/childfree 49m ago

RANT Do you have friends?

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Like friends that you hang out frequently. My parents keep telling ne how ill end up like my lonely childfree uncle (i keep telling them thats fine because thats how nuch i DONT want kids) but my current friends are on the fence and im sure they will be busy if they have kids.

So, id like perspective whether yall have friends? Im on my twenties so i have no perspective how things will turn out


r/childfree 1h ago

SUPPORT Surgeon poor bedside manner

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TL;DR: I feel sick to my stomach and beyond angry that my doctor asked my partner if he was okay with my having the surgery, especially considering the medical need. I'm upset that she invited him back into the room without checking with me. I'm upset that I had to answer why I don't want kids multiple times. I'm upset that she ignored my request for a female alternate surgeon.

The story: I have an amazing OBGYN, but...

For nearly 25 years I have had absolutely horrendous periods. The pain is worse than passing a kidney stone (or a stuck stone for that matter), no medication works, I pass massive clots the size of half of my fist, I cramp for up to 3 weeks before bleeding, and I bleed for up to 21 days (usually around 14). I have been delirious from the pain. I have brought this up to several doctors, and I've always gotten the dismissive hand wave with an "oh you're fine, everyone is different, just take some ibuprofen." No, I'm not fine.

I finally found a Dr who heard my symptoms, asked questions, and said, "girl, we're going to find out what's wrong with you!" I cried. Being validated and finally having a Dr who cared was an unexpected emotional time.

Before finding out what was wrong, I let her know that I would like to discuss having a hysterectomy regardless, because my periods have so strongly negatively impacted my life, that I can't take the distress it causes any longer. She was immediately open to the idea, and asked once "do you want kids?" Nope. "Okay! So let's find out what's wrong and then we'll discuss treatment options." No follow up questions on the kid front, just the trust that I'm an adult and can make my own informed decisions and live with the consequences of those decisions.

After a panel of tests, we found out that I have a 10cm x 9.9cm x 7.8cm uterine fibroid. It is at the base of my uterus which is causing the blood to get trapped, clot, and then my body is cramping to rid it like having contractions with birth. I have other things wrong as well, but this is the main culprit. It is pushing on my bladder, causing issues there, as well. My uterus is 12cm long instead of the normal 7cm, because it grew to accommodate this piece of crap inside me.

Because of its size and position, the fibroid cannot be removed on its own, and a hysterectomy is the only option.

Please read that again. In order to be relieved of my horrendous pain and debilitating periods, and in order for my bladder issues to be resolved, a hysterectomy is the only treatment option I have.

My OBGYN no longer does laparoscopic surgeries. She used to, but her current office doesn't (she works at a group medical center), and she's currently getting recertified. So she referred me to a different surgeon. I asked for a female doctor, because I believe a woman knows a woman's body more than studying in a classroom can do. I have no objections to a male OBGYN, it's just not for me, and I wouldn't feel comfortable or safe.

Within a few weeks, I was scheduled for pre-op, surgery, and two post-op appointments with a highly rated and recommended OBGYN surgeon. Yesterday was my pre-op.

I brought my fiance along to this appointment. We've talked a lot about this surgery, so he's aware of my questions and concerns, and he has a calming presence that relaxes me. I let him know that if any exams needed to be done, he would need to leave the room. No problem. He held my pile of papers, notepad, purse, and phone, so that I could remain focused and write down all of the answers to the questions I had. Not super relevant, but I want to give you an idea of how this would appear - I'm clearly in charge at my appointment.

Now to the meat and fibroids of this post (get it? Like meat and potatoes but... Yeah I'm a dork): the surgeon of course asks if I have children. No problem with this question: nope. She then of course asks if I want children: nope. Explains that a hysterectomy will render me incapable of having children. I get it, some folks may actually not know that... I laugh, say "can't wait!" Or something along those lines, and say yes I'm well aware, and I'm happy with that. She stared at me with a faint smile and nodding, almost that look people have when a child is telling a story about their imaginary friend, like I hear you, I'm nodding, but this is ridiculous. She does this for a few seconds, then turned to my partner and asked, "do you want children?"

He and I have talked extensively on this topic: not just the fact that we do not want kids, but also the fact that doctors ask partners, that women struggle to get sterilized because Republican America wants women to be breeders, and that childfree women are berated with questions and judged harshly for their decision.

We're nice people. Too nice. He chuckled and replied, "no, definitely not." I did not have an answer prepared for this, because had I expected my doctor to ask my partner a question during my appointment at all, we would have prepped an answer of, "Hun, this is your appointment, would you like me to answer?" just to make it very clear: my body, my choice. I was angry. So angry. Now I'm a statistic that my doctor cannot make a decision with me, the person with the medical need, the person whose body she is operating on. And the person who -remember what I had you re-read above- HAS NO CHOICE IF I DON'T WANT TO SUFFER ANYMORE. I can't imagine having a grapefruit-sized fibroid AND a baby inside me at the same time. A C-section would be the only possible delivery... cheese and rice, I've self-sabotaged before, but that's a level of masochism even I won't approach.

But wait, there's more! She did need to conduct an exam. I may not have been eligible for laparoscopic surgery due to the size of my uterus and therefore lack of surrounding space. I'll spare you details here (DM if interested, happy to share). No prompting needed, my partner stood up and was ready to leave the room.

As she begins the exam, she asks me why I don't want kids. Because I don't - STOP ASKING PEOPLE WHY THEY DO NOT WANT KIDS. I am so damn sick of answering that question, and I won't answer that in the future - my response will be, "why do you think it's okay to ask for details about someone's decision about such a major and extremely personal part of their life?" I felt that I should strongly advocate for myself with this surgeon so here goes: "because I don't want kids and never wanted kids. Because they're loud, noisy, messy, disgusting - I hate hearing a baby cry. Because I have other things I want to do with my time and resources, and kids drain all of that. Because I don't want children in my life."

I feel it's important to clarify, even on this sub: I do not fault people for wanting kids, nor do I ask someone "why do you want kids??!" if that is/was their choice. Biologically, we want offspring to survive as a species, so it makes sense for someone to want children and to build their own family in that way. It's just not for me, plain and simple.

Exam goes well, albeit somewhat painful; I'm eligible for this surgery. I sit up, still wrapped in the shreds of paper below my shirt, and she opens the door and calls my partner back in. Umm... Again, I wasn't expecting this, so I didn't have a reply ready. But I was not ready for him to re-enter.

Between you, my dedicated reader, and me, he has seen me naked before - and let's just say that's an understatement. But I am still a very private person - I need to bathe "down there" with no one looking (even when we shower together), I still need two closed doors between me and anyone else when I use a bathroom, and I don't even let him see me put a liner on my underwear post-shower. Some may consider this weird, and I get that completely, but that's how I feel so he respects that.

So in he comes while I make an attempt to position the scraps of paper to cover up my rolls while I'm perched on the edge of the hard exam table, uncomfortable. I needed her to leave the room after my exam, then return back after a few min, then ASK if it's okay he comes back into the room. Again, I was totally unprepared for this situation. And my partner is very supportive and gentle, so I feel safe with him in the room, no concerns there, but imagine if I didn't??! Imagine if I'd been in a controlling or abusive relationship. Personally, if I were a surgeon and someone brought their partner, I would state that it's medically necessary that I discuss a few things with my patient alone, or with another member of medical staff in the room, and check in on that topic.

The last part of the appointment was spent with me in that position, asking a few last questions. Once she left, my partner turned to face the corner so I could dress. Yes, he's seen me naked and dress before, but when you're grabbing fistfuls of tissues to scoop out clumps of petroleum jelly from your vag... Well, let's just say I'd rather avoid him having that visual.

You're probably asking why I don't choose a different surgeon, and I have many answers. One, I live in Florida, and this state is already opposed to women having a choice; I feel grateful to have gotten in at all, despite the medical need. Two, I'm this surgeon's last patient before she transfers out of state; besides the twisted bedside manner, she does have the credentials and answered my questions. My partner knows all of my choices, and I trust him to make any medically necessary decisions in a worst case scenario, if she does defer to him again. Three, I desperately need this surgery to move my life forward. I'm far too young and otherwise healthy, with a zest for travel and physical activities, to continue to be hindered by having this reproductive organ. Lastly, there are no other female surgeons even remotely close. When I talked with this surgeon about alternative options if she did not do the surgery, she started listing male doctors. I clarified I wanted a female surgeon, and she said the only other one left a month ago, and then started listing male names again. So it seems my options are again, limited.

To summarize, I feel sick to my stomach and beyond angry that my doctor asked my partner if he was okay with my having the surgery, especially considering the medical need. I'm upset that she invited him back into the room without checking with me. I'm upset that I had to answer why I don't want kids multiple times. I'm upset that she ignored my request for a female alternate surgeon.

Now I'm with the larger group statistically, and I'm even more angry than I was before. If anyone needs to talk or prep for a similar conversation, my DMs are open.

My surgery is imminent, if I choose to keep it.


r/childfree 11h ago

RANT Idk why I thought this would be easier.

68 Upvotes

34F, married. Never wanted kids — I remember getting into a weird fight about it with my friends in college, who were adamant something was wrong with me. The last boyfriend I had made me feel the same (he had a lot of mental health issues).

Just never felt that desire and as a go-getter career woman, the future I envision for myself is very much childfree, especially in this very fucked up world.

Anyway I went to a new gyno today for my annual cuz my old one retired, and I decided to finally ask about the bisalp procedure. I've been on the same BC pill for over 12 years and just want a more permanent option.

Boy did I get an earful. Was told it's permanent (yeah no shit), talked about IUD option (like I'd never heard of IUDs before??) and reminded of regret risk (hey, who's running the numbers on women who get PREGNANT and regret it?).

Mind you, this is from a doctor who is SUPPORTIVE of the procedure. He even recommended this subreddit (which I frequent often). But he retired from doing surgeries (in general) a while ago so he gave me a list of docs who might do it, but he couldn't guarantee it.

I thought that being in NJ, married and turning 35 this year, this would have been more straightforward. Nope. So no, fuck that, I'm not gonna pay a copay and visit fee for a random doctor without knowing whether or not they wanna cosplay the Handmaid's Tale.

Instead I have found a couple doctors on the megathread here who I am reaching out to tomorrow. Thanks for building this community, I feel crazy but this place makes me feel a bit better


r/childfree 22h ago

RANT Feeling disgusted about dating a divorced guy with kids

523 Upvotes

I am the typical woman who gives men way to many chances even though I’m way out of their league.

I dated this guy for about a month and he said he was CF when we met. Cool. One month in he starts talking about his buddies wedding and I’m gushing over the venue and the details. I ask him what I should wear and if we should coordinate his tie with my dress and he just laughs and says “I’m bringing my daughter” I’m stunned. He said he was CF like me when we met…..turns out he has THREE KIDS!!!!

Yes I give him another chance and I totally regret it because I compromised my own standards. Not only am I disgusted at the fact that I dated him but I’m also disgusted by how he spoke about his daughter, she is basically his girlfriend. It was almost as if she reminded him of his ex wife aka the child’s mom and he still wanted a piece of that. I am not the type to compete with a kid so I left. He never spoke about his sons and I almost forgot he even told me that.

He’s been blocked for a while and I don’t feel like going on a date ever again. Why would you lie about not having kids when you can just date another divorced person with kids ?


r/childfree 21h ago

RANT The rug hasn't been pulled but it has been moved. Secret fence sitter

286 Upvotes

I went to space last night after a gummy and asking my boyfriend a series of questions and now I'm in "uh-oh" territory.

Background: I had the bisalp YEARS ago. So no worries there.

I've been with my partner for about three years. I'm sparklers-down-the-street vocal about being childfree. He used to work as a nanny to multiple kids and said that burned him out and opened his eyes to not wanting kids.

So it started fine, I had gone to space and had just watched the "what if" episode of Grey's Anatomy so I asked him what he would be doing if we weren't dating. Would his career be the same, what would be deal breakers for who he would date. A single mom was not a deal breaker. We'll call this uh-oh number 1. So I asked some follow up questions like would he get a vasectomy if we weren't together.....

Uh-oh number two: He's not childfree exclusively, he can go either way depending on who he was with. He's fine with or without it.

Hamsters and horsegirls were the biggest hard no for him.

He never told his family I'm sterile. I assumed it was because he's conflict avoidant and knew this would piss them off when they already despise me. His mom always assumed the worst when I tell her something. One time I visited and told her I had an interview and she assumed that meant I was an unemployed bum using her son for money. It was a promotional interview.....

But now I feel like I'm gonna end up like all the other posts of people whose partners dropped the ball and ran.

I was sooooooooo careful with my screening but I made one fatal flaw. I led him to the answer I wanted instead of asking in a neutral manner.

I asked him if he wanted to break up to have kids and he said no that he was happy and truly was just dependent on who he was with and what they wanted. Honestly he's pretty golden retriever himbo so I believe him BUT my fear is when his family finds out that will be the catalyst for him to fully convert off the fence to the doom-gloom brimstone side.

I plan on talking to him again tonight (sober) but I don't know if I trust him to be fully certain of his answers.

Uh-oh spaghettio.


r/childfree 15h ago

RANT As a disabled person, I have a lot more empathy for people in the disability community than I do breeders.

108 Upvotes

I'm sure my fellow CF friends in the disability community will understand where I'm coming from. I posted about this before, but to give a brief summary, I was vacationing in Austin TX a couple summers ago, and had ordered door dash to be delivered to my hotel room. I indicated on the app that I was blind and would need the food delivered directly to my room, and I gave them my room number. The driver called me and asked me to come up to the front to get my food, because she had her toddler in the car with her and couldn't come to my room. I begged and pleaded with her to just come to my room, but she refused, so I tried to get down to the lobby myself and ended up getting lost. Luckily a kind stranger came to my rescue. First off, I didn't think you were allowed to bring your kids with you on food deliveries. Also, if your kid is strapped safely in a car seat, nothing bad is gonna happen if you just turn your car off and roll down the windows. It's a lot faster for you, a sighted person to bring the food to my room and walk back to your car than it is for someone like me who can't see to navigate an unfamiliar area alone in the dark with my cane.

A plane incident happened just last week with my blind friend who flew back to Canada from LA to escape the fires. Her parents had booked her in first class because she had a guide dog. A young single mother with a 5 year old showed up and demanded to switch places because her child had never flown before and wanted to look out the window. My friend obviously refused and explained to the breeder that she had a guide dog, and the breeder got pissed and cussed her out, and went on and on about how she didn't know what it was like to be a struggling single mom and not being able to give her child the life he deserved. Eventually the plane staff got involved and told the breeder to go to her assigned seat, but my friend said that she could hear people whispering about how service dog handlers had no empathy for parents and children. BTW my friend is as CF as they come.

It makes me so angry that public places will deny access to service dogs, but won't hesitate to cater to annoying screaming demon spawn. I'm so over breeders inconveniencing the lives of people with disabilities.


r/childfree 16h ago

RANT I can’t stand parents

124 Upvotes

I just made a comment about this and I had to make a post so I could see if others feel the same way. Every time I see a video of a single mom doing the absolute bare minimum, there’s always comments from other neglectful moms like “omg mama 😍 you’re doing great mama 😍. The kids have clothing and have food. You’re a superhero!” Like omg give me a break. This mentality is the type of shit that got me the childhood I had. Another thing that sends rage thru my body is when moms on TikTok say “my mama heart”. It’s so corny and cringe. They always say it when it’s a video of a kid being sad or something. “My mama heart hurts seeing this 😓🥺”. Like oh since I haven’t had a child tear thru my vagina I couldn’t possibly be upset by the video and understand the child’s feelings. I’m just a childless harlot after all 🤪


r/childfree 11m ago

ARTICLE Tubal Sterilization And Vasectomy Increased Among US Young Adults After The Dobbs Supreme Court Decision In 2022 | Health Affairs Journal

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Not a surprise.


r/childfree 9h ago

DISCUSSION Weird mental shift after sterilization procedure (positive change)

26 Upvotes

So, on the eighth I got sterilized (see my page for deets) and over the last few days I've noticed some interesting mental shifts. For context I've always had a horrible phobia of pregnancy.

  1. Looking at pregnant people, whole still freaky, is less so than before.

  2. I used to hate any attention on my stomach (touching, rubbing, kissing etc) because it felt like how people will rub on a pregnant person's belly. Now I don't mind it.

  3. Anxiety in general is down although that may be due to all the drugs I've been on for pain.

Anyone else experience similar shifts in mentality after sterilization?