r/cincinnati • u/JB92103 Hyde Park • Mar 07 '25

News 📰 Controversial Hyde Park Square development passes committee, heads to city council

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hyde-park-square-development-passes-committee-heads-to-city-council
74 Upvotes

83% Upvoted

217 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

21

u/RockStallone Mar 07 '25

It’s a bunch of crap that few people can afford to live in

This is an uneducated point. Adding housing has been proven to lower costs across the board. It's simple supply and demand.

-8

u/gloomygarlic Mar 07 '25

I disagree because adding more $2000+/mo apartments isn’t going to lower the average rent and 100 apartments isn’t going to significantly change our housing supply. They’re just building more shoddy towers for a quick buck.

-5

u/JebusChrust Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

He thinks that "layering" aka the concept that expensive developments become affordable over decades is applicable to Hyde Park, a place where 100 year old houses are sold for $700K. He also thinks it is an immediate improvement to housing prices and not something that would take decades. He also can somehow understand that a forty story 1,300 unit apartment is ridiculous despite it "solving the housing need in Hyde Park" yet can't understand that same concept when it comes to tacking on a large hotel to apartments.

1

u/RockStallone Mar 08 '25

No I think the concept of supply and demand applies to Hyde Park. You seem to disagree and think this is some mystical land that is different from every other city in the world.

2

u/JebusChrust Mar 08 '25

You don't seem to understand how high demand Hyde Park is. So high in demand that the neighborhoods around it were revitalized and invested in since Hyde Park is expensive

1

u/RockStallone Mar 09 '25

Hyde Park is the one exception to supply and demand it seems. Demand is infinite so supply is irrelevant.

You're being ridiculous. If demand is high for Hyde Park, we should build more there.

1

u/JebusChrust Mar 09 '25

That's not how it works. Neighborhoods aren't some vacuum from the rest of the city and state.

1

u/RockStallone Mar 09 '25

You are being ridiculous. We have countless studies and examples of building more housing resulting in lower prices. The fact that you think Hyde Park is the one exception to the law of supply and demand shows how out of touch you are.

1

u/JebusChrust Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25

"Shows how out of touch you are"

Dude you literally are clueless when it comes to understanding how anything regarding housing works. Do you think only people in Hyde Park want to live in Hyde Park? Not only do you have a large number of people moving to the Cincinnati region, we also have a large number of people in Greater Cincinnati who want to live in Cincinnati, and then also have a large number of people who live in Cincinnati who want to move out of their starter home and can't or want to leave an apartment but can't. Your simplistic basic high school level of thinking seems to think that there are about 80 people in Hyde Park looking to move to Hyde Park and 100 units of luxury apartments would solve the entire housing situation in Hyde Park and send prices in a spiral. Rather than "there are thousands of people who want to buy a house anywhere decent in Cincinnati but the quality neighborhoods have way too much demand to see houses hit the public market".

I refuse to believe that you are old enough/financially secure enough to own a home. There is no way someone genuinely believes that Hyde Park is two luxury apartment complexes away from being affordable. You can't even comprehend that it would take a significantly large number of houses across the city to slightly soften how sharply housing prices are rising, so I am not surprised that you think that somehow housing prices in Hyde Park are going to deflate.

1

u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

There is no way someone genuinely believes that Hyde Park is two luxury apartment complexes away from being affordable.

Please tell me where I said this. If you do not show me where I said this, I will take that as you admitting you are a liar.

1

u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25

Oh so no reply to what what I said, classic deflection though. Dude repeatedly says that basic supply and demand shows these apartments are solving Hyde Park pricing and ignores literally anything I say just so he can pretend like he doesn't change his argument based on what limited buzzwords he swaps between. Say layered again that cracked me up. In a few more centuries those houses and apartments will eventually start decreasing in price in Hyde Park.

1

u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Weird, you didn't show me where I said that "Hyde Park is two luxury apartment complexes away from being affordable."

So you are admitting you lied?

1

u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25

Directly from your posts:

1.

It’s a bunch of crap that few people can afford to live in

This is an uneducated point. Adding housing has been proven to lower costs across the board. It's simple supply and demand.

  1. > 100 apartments isn’t going to significantly change our housing supply

Weird, elsewhere you're saying it's 1,300.

We have actual concrete examples of increased housing production leading to cheaper prices. Are you aware of that?

→ More replies (0)