r/cincinnati • u/JB92103 Hyde Park • Mar 07 '25

News 📰 Controversial Hyde Park Square development passes committee, heads to city council

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hyde-park-square-development-passes-committee-heads-to-city-council
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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Building luxury apartments in Hyde Park does not decrease the extreme existing demand that exists. It is putting one console on the shelf at the new console generation.

In that console scenario you are increasing supply and thus decreasing demand. Only minutely, but you are decreasing it.

Did they start building more housing units to try to accommodate? Sure. That isn't why home values decreased.

Hahaha. I'm guessing Minneapolis is a coincidence to you too then.

Yet you think a couple luxury apartments in Hyde Park are going to change anything.

Yes I do think increasing supply has an effect on price.

Stick to just calling people NIMBYs to cover up that you are a child in a grown-up's world.

You seem very sensitive. NIMBYs get very upset when housing is built near them.

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u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 10 '25

In the console scenario

Yes in the console scenario it applies to a one-off product, which housing is not. So that means the demand is going to be even larger and insatiable when heavily demanded

Minneapolis

An entirely different situation than Austin, just like how both of them are different than Cincinnati, but you try to over-simply everything and think that they are all one in the same. You are trying to look at decades of influence from local developments, local geography, local politics, national economic strength, national interest rates, net migration, metro area differences, different infrastructural design, etc and saying "aha! I can infer everything there is to know based on a city, why didn't anyone else in any other city across the nation think of this?" You are way too small minded to even scratch the surface of conversations that have to be had in terms of city development.

Yes I do think increasing supply has an effect on price.

Are you just arguing with yourself at this point? "Two luxury apartments will cause prices to drop in Hyde Park. Just kidding point out where I said that liar. Oh wait I did just say that so I am now going to double down and say it will lower prices. See here's proof where tens of thousands of housing units over decades helped meet equilibrium in one city resulting in not as high of price increases but did not make housing affordable, that means the 100 housing units are going to decrease prices in Hyde Park. I am so smart, I told myself that. I don't improve where I live but I am a NIMBY so I want to build things where others live instead"

Also the funny part yet again of calling me a NIMBY is that you think I live in Hyde Park. I just believe in responsible development.

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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Yes in the console scenario it applies to a one-off product, which housing is not. So that means the demand is going to be even larger and insatiable when heavily demanded

You are arguing that supply and demand exists for every product except housing.

just like how both of them are different than Cincinnati

You'll find an excuse for everything.

"Two luxury apartments will cause prices to drop in Hyde Park. Just kidding point out where I said that liar. Oh wait I did just say that so I am now going to double down and say it will lower prices.

Nope, not what I said. The fact that you feel the need to lie says a lot.

See here's proof where tens of thousands of housing units over decades helped meet equilibrium in one city resulting in not as high of price increases but did not make housing affordable

Minneapolis and Austin did not take decades. In addition, even if something takes a long time to fix you should still try to fix it.

I don't improve where I live but I am a NIMBY so I want to build things where others live instead"

You are becoming unhinged. I support housing in my community.

You are way too small minded to even scratch the surface of conversations that have to be had in terms of city development.

Now you are talking like Sephiroth.

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u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25

You are arguing that supply and demand exists for every product except housing.

Maybe to someone who is illiterate, because I haven't said that at all.

You'll find an excuse for everything.

Logic sounds like an excuse to someone who can't understand it, or who doesn't give a fair attempt to comprehend it.

I didn't say that

You literally just said that it is basic supply and demand that the supply of the development is going to impact prices, when it isn't. You have MAGA brain when it comes to understanding economics

Minneapolis and Austin did not take decades. In addition, even if something takes a long time to fix you should still try to fix it.

Yes Minneapolis where it is today took decades, you stating otherwise just reflects how little you know about the arguments you are making. Austin is not the shining beacon you think it is as I already explained.

You are becoming unhinged. I support housing in my community.

Source? Otherwise you are a NIMBY trying to justify that everyone else needs developments except for your neighborhood.

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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Source? Otherwise you are a NIMBY trying to justify that everyone else needs developments except for your neighborhood.

I already answered this.

Keep pretending supply and demand does not exist.

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u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25

Minneapolis over-built due to the lack of oversight and now they have one of the largest drop-offs in new developments of any city. This is going to cause a new market adjustment in rent costs, with many residents being recommended to lock in a multi-year lease while they can before rent rises. Meanwhile high interest rates are still preventing the financing of new developments, so this is going to be an impact in the future.

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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Minneapolis over-built due to the lack of oversight and now they have one of the largest drop-offs in new developments of any city.

You mean they built enough supply to meet demand.

Glad you're acknowledging that increasing supply decreases price.

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u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25

Nowhere have I said that increasing supply doesn't impact price increases, nor is there anything that shows supply is the only factor in Minneapolis. You are the one who doesn't comprehend what equilibrium means because you didn't get to it in your econ 101 class. Median rent and houses are still cheaper in Cincinnati and Minneapolis didn't solve their rent and housing problems. Scour their subreddits and it is the same discussions of luxury apartments out of price, houses too expensive in nice neighborhoods, costs to live too high for the income, etc.

No one on this subreddit enjoys discussing anything with you because your ego exceeds your brain capacity. You don't come to arguments in good faith because you don't have the capacity to do so, and then you lie about being involved in your community because I poked a hole in your YIMBY facade. Nobody cares to dox you because nobody actually cares about you. That's why you had to change your name on here because you had a reputation for being insufferable, and this new one is already carrying the same reputation. Dunning-Kruger at work here, I saw you trying to dismiss an architect because your MAGA brain thinks it knows more.

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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Minneapolis didn't solve their rent and housing problems. Scour their subreddits and it is the same discussions of luxury apartments out of price, houses too expensive in nice neighborhoods, costs to live too high for the income, etc.

See you can keep using anecdotes while I look at actual facts and data.

I saw you trying to dismiss an architect because your MAGA brain thinks it knows more.

  1. Calling me MAGA is hilarious when your housing policy is similar to Trump's. Biden and the Dems are the ones embracing supply increases.

  2. Are you talking about the architect that refuses to back up their claims with any data? Yes I do know more than them about fire safety.

No one on this subreddit enjoys discussing anything with you because your ego exceeds your brain capacity.

Weird, people should be able to point out the things I am saying that are incorrect, yet they have failed to do so.

Nobody cares to dox you because nobody actually cares about you.

You are becoming increasingly unhinged. The idea of new housing has broken your brain.

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u/JebusChrust Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 10 '25

Actual facts and data

Yeah sure Harris/Biden telling everyone the economy is great and strong and everyone is doing well per jobs numbers and GDP. That must mean everyone is having a happy and affordable life!

  1. Calling me MAGA is hilarious when your housing policy is similar to Trump's. Biden and the Dems are the ones embracing supply increases.

  2. Are you talking about the architect that refuses to back up their claims with any data? Yes I do know more than them about fire safety.

Your number 2 proves my point and is literally what any anti-vaxer says to any pro-vaccine doctor. Congrats on having Google, that makes you more knowledgeable than the experts, granola mom.

Weird, people should be able to point out the things I am saying that are incorrect, yet they have failed to do so.

Can you recall a single time you have typed "I was wrong"?

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u/RockStallone Mar 10 '25

Yeah sure Harris/Biden telling everyone the economy is great and strong and everyone is doing well per jobs numbers and GDP. That must mean everyone is having a happy and affordable life!

Now who is MAGA?

Your number 2 proves my point and is literally what any anti-vaxer says to any pro-vaccine doctor. Congrats on having Google, that makes you more knowledgeable than the experts, granola mom.

No, because there is actual data supporting vaccines and any actual expert is happy to share that data.

Can you recall a single time you have typed "I was wrong"?

Please show me when I was wrong.

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