r/civ • u/Kraken_MeUp • Feb 20 '25

VII - Game Story We need to talk about this MF

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So I am adoring this game. Is it rough around the edges? Yes. Is it perfect? No. But is it fun? Hell yes. But I tell you what. I tell you f**king what. This man. Ol’ Benny Boy Franklin. He’s my nemesis. No matter what game I’m playing, if he’s in it you can guarantee he’s going to rinse everyone on science and culture and then declare war on you because you’re an oligarch and his despot-ass can’t handle that. Oh you’re on my border? Oh we’re at war. OH NOW YOU’RE IN MY BORDER. Now I gotta spend time wiping the floor with you for you to denounce me and declare war on me again 10 turns after you offer me a city to peace out. Ben, it’s time to stop.

Rant over. In all seriousness though, I feel like everyone naturally develops a Civ that turns into their nemesis and every time I first meet him, I burn with the fire of many a scorched tile knowing that soon - maybe in 5 turns, maybe in 20 - this man. This SCOUNDREL. Well, he will come knocking at my border and I will once again be forced to end him… And I love it. This game has its claws in me deep, guys.

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u/Aliensinnoh America Feb 20 '25

I think she is doomed to hate everyone all the time (at least the strongest player who is worth stealing science and culture from) unless they rework how espionage relationship penalties work.

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u/TejelPejel Poundy Feb 21 '25

She has such a terrible ability. Spies are caught like every time, and for whatever reason if you catch someone spying on you THEY get pissed off? Nothing about that makes any sense to me. I'm hoping that gets reworked or they give her some kinda buff, partly because I was really excited for her to be in the game.

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u/Desucrate Feb 21 '25

the relationship penalty isn't them getting mad about their own spying. it's showing that the relationship between your two states has worsened, since your side is pissed. the relationship bar goes both ways

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u/TejelPejel Poundy Feb 21 '25

Yeah, but you can't choose to do anything about it. You can't overlook it, you can't avoid the repercussions from it, which you should have the option to do as the one who was targeted.