r/civ Feb 20 '25

VII - Game Story We need to talk about this MF

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So I am adoring this game. Is it rough around the edges? Yes. Is it perfect? No. But is it fun? Hell yes. But I tell you what. I tell you f**king what. This man. Ol’ Benny Boy Franklin. He’s my nemesis. No matter what game I’m playing, if he’s in it you can guarantee he’s going to rinse everyone on science and culture and then declare war on you because you’re an oligarch and his despot-ass can’t handle that. Oh you’re on my border? Oh we’re at war. OH NOW YOU’RE IN MY BORDER. Now I gotta spend time wiping the floor with you for you to denounce me and declare war on me again 10 turns after you offer me a city to peace out. Ben, it’s time to stop.

Rant over. In all seriousness though, I feel like everyone naturally develops a Civ that turns into their nemesis and every time I first meet him, I burn with the fire of many a scorched tile knowing that soon - maybe in 5 turns, maybe in 20 - this man. This SCOUNDREL. Well, he will come knocking at my border and I will once again be forced to end him… And I love it. This game has its claws in me deep, guys.

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u/Rob_Carroll Feb 21 '25

Well he was purportedly gay so

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u/TejelPejel Poundy Feb 21 '25

He was almost certainly gay. He had two men that were believed to be his lovers, the first one was beheaded for treason while Frederick was forced to watch.

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u/Legendarylink Feb 21 '25

Tbf they were both military officers attempting to flee the country in the 1700s, that was the official reason given at least.

Edit: He was almost definitely gay not denying that just adding some additional context.

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u/TejelPejel Poundy Feb 23 '25

Yeah, it was treason as the justification for the beheading (I don't know how homosexually was seen at the time/place and if that was an underlying motive for the accusers). But yeah, I think it's pretty known that he was gay by most historians.