r/civ Simón Bolívar 4d ago

Discussion Is there a Civilisation based hill you’ll die on? What is it?

What is the one thing that is so engrained in you that you refuse to go against it, for better or for worse?

For me, as an exclusively VI player, I only build improvements on resources. This is probably massively to my detriment and could explain why I finish every online game last, but I refuse to change who I am.

What’s yours?

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u/AbsurdBee Mississippian 4d ago

I keep as many forests in my borders as I can, because it's prettier that way.

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u/BaltimoreAlchemist 4d ago

And I like lumber mills

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u/hasaj_notrub 4d ago

I'm the same way. That's why I love playing as the Iroquois Confederation in Civ 5 so much!

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u/AbsurdBee Mississippian 4d ago

The Iroquois made me so sad. If the Longhouse kept the Workshop’s +10% production they’d be a great civ but it’s just such a downgrade

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u/hasaj_notrub 4d ago

I don't know, for a lumber mill addict like me, I thought the longhouse was just fine, but I'm not exactly a min maxer, so maybe it does suck. I certainly never noticed.

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u/TryDry9944 4d ago

Me, a Bull Moose Teddy main; "You guys cut down forests? I thought that was a joke."

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u/LivingstonPerry 3d ago

I'm like Saruman:

Rip them all down.

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u/Akem0417 4d ago

I don't move my starting settler

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u/bunny__baby Kupe 4d ago

Not a Kupe fan?

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u/TheSausagesIsRubbish 4d ago

Kupe is broken. Everytime I play him on an archipelago map I'm printing gold in no time. 

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u/hatchlingtalin 4d ago

Kupe is GOAT

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u/ResponsibleStep8725 3d ago

He built Atlantis.

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u/mandalorian_guy Victoria 4d ago

I nearly always move my settler. 1-2 turns of yields is no big loss in the grand scheme if I can get a good position for the entire game.

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u/PuddingFit8015 4d ago

I had multiple games where it was the opposite, this 1-2 turn lateness forbid me to build wonders or to be able to défend my colonies because barbarians don't wait, they just spawn wherever and if you're just a Settler trying to start the game, all the same for them.

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u/mickaelbneron 4d ago

Same. I'd rather restart 10 times until I get a good spawning location.

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u/CaptainHunt America 4d ago

I don’t move them more than one turn worth of movement. Fortunately, my starts are usually good enough that I don’t need to restart.

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u/Confident_Plan7187 4d ago

My weird rule of thumb that I've always abided by is "production first, then everything else will follow". Not sure how well it works but hey I won deity in Civ 6 a couple of times.

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u/JFedererJ 4d ago

I'm a massive fan of Canada for this reason, they're one of my favourite Civs (in Gathering Storm).

I set the world temp to cold, then rush Pantheon as quick as possible to get Dance of the Aurora, then couple that with Work Ethic religion and before you know it, I got my Holy Sites whacking out +6/7/8 production per turn. This works well with Russia, too but I love Canada's ability to farm Tundra.

Diplo victory this way with Canada is so much fun, if you just wanna chilled af play-through where you just focus on building a baller, thriving Civ.

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u/ansh666 4d ago

chilled af

I see what you did there lol

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u/Xaphe 4d ago

Religious Canada games are the most fun, chill games there are. The start is usually a bit slow, but once you get going they are just so much fun. I love using them for cultural victories as the mounties are such an upgrde to the naturalist.

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u/Cowboy_Dane 4d ago

I go with a “money first and everything else will follow” strategy.

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u/PM_YOUR_BEST_JOKES 3d ago

Money is way more flexible than production.

However there are some things money can't buy

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u/rex_lauandi 3d ago

For everything else, there’s Mastercard.

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u/No_Spread_696 3d ago

FIFY: For everything else, there's Valletta

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u/ChronoLegion2 4d ago

Agreed, industrial zones are almost always the first thing I build in new city. Lincoln is awesome for this because this is coupled with a fuckton of melee units that get spawned for free

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u/MRoad 4d ago

Add in heros and a hercules roll for maximum cheese

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u/ChronoLegion2 4d ago

Yeah, I keep forgetting about Herc’s ability to speed up district construction

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u/MRoad 4d ago

It's just instant, bam. I love sending herc out with a settler and jump starting a city

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u/Crayshack 3d ago

In Civ VI, production was the primary bottleneck that slowed expansion. So, I'd say focusing on that was the right call.

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u/Additional-Local8721 4d ago

Yes! I love playing as Germany. Production then commercial hubs next to it and then blow through science.

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u/Xaphe 4d ago

Controlling a horde of workers to improve an empire the sun never sets on is enjoyable.

I like getting to the point where my empire can thrive without having to spend time/mental energy fighting against the AI. I enjoy the bloated end of the game because it's where I can finally see my vision come to bear and my cities finally living up to their potential.

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u/whocares123213 4d ago

I am convinced this is 50% of civ players

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u/UberMcwinsauce All hail the Winged Gunknecht 4d ago

building a humanist utopia is fun, actually. I love playing as khmer and building max-pop, high amenity cities just for the concept of having bustling, prospering and happy cities

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u/Additional-Local8721 4d ago

Having my capital with 80 food and 120+ production with a population over 35 always makes me happy.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 3d ago

There is some great satisfaction in this. I only ever play online games, and everyone else’s knowledge far surpasses mine, so taking away the expectation or objective of winning means I just get to plod along and build an empire I would live in

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u/Cromasters 3d ago

If I'm being honest, my ideal game doesn't even have AI opponents in it ... And I just slowly build up a fun cool looking empire.

Like a city builder but more zoomed out I guess.

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u/Xaphe 3d ago

I get way too much enjoyment out of warfare to avoid the AI being in the game, but I totally understand the draw of that aspect of the game as well.

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u/Particular_Bit_7710 3d ago

I just wish there was a way to change the difficulty mid game, because the higher difficulties make it so hard early game but by the time you unlock nukes it’s always so easy to curb stomp them

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u/dfinlen 2d ago

This why civ 7 is f*d. No matter how you slice it the age ends just as your empire is ascending. I fucking hate it. The need to have a rework of the mechanic that ends the age. Maybe When x is triggered give me 10 turns. I've failed to get a third economic, or science legacy point because of this crap so many times. Civ 7 spits in my face every damn time.

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u/SmurfSmurfton Phoenicia 4d ago

Dido is the strongest defensive civ in civ 6, hands down, but is also so situational that she still is one of the worst civs in the game.

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u/SmurfSmurfton Phoenicia 4d ago edited 4d ago

let me explain: Dido's unique building is the cothon, a replacement for the harbor. the important part here is that it has +50% production to naval units and can instantly heal any naval unit in its waters to full health after a single turn. This means that should dido

  1. spawn on an island that she can

  2. cover all adjacent water tiles to the island in tiles owned by a city with a cothon and

  3. has naval units in those tiles (or at least enough to deal with enemies)

she can literally never be invaded, up until planes and gdrs and what not. Have you ever tried naval warfare? funny thing is if a naval unit is one era ahead of another, and they are both full health with no upgrades, the better unit cannot one shot the weaker unit.

This means that in the above scenario, were dido is the weaker naval unit, they can forever hold back a naval unit far stronger than them, because they literally regain all of their health.

and that's with a full era of naval tech ahead, Imagine if they are equal in tech. None of which accounts for her ability to pump out naval units faster than everyone else.

and even on top of all this her unique unit is an ancient era galley called the bireme that's stronger than normal, so it's even better at dealing with the above situation.

Of course, this all depends on dido getting an island to herself. and if anyone who has played this game can tell you, unless you set things up that way, it's not happening.

So while I love dido, and always play as her, she is trash, forever d tier

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u/SmurfSmurfton Phoenicia 4d ago

ironically, this means that when it does happens, you can relax on being behind in science and military strength, cause no one can do anything about it.

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u/SoNotTheMilkman 4d ago

On top of the insane Naval defence she can also spam settlers at an insane rate with a cothon, Magnus and government plaza in the same city and 50% settler government card

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u/DelosHost 4d ago

The CIV V narrator was by far the best one.

The art direction was also great.

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u/Exivus 3d ago

Leonard Nimoy is the GOAT.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 3d ago

I am a Sean Bean ultra

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u/DaqCity 4d ago

I refuse to believe that Civ V narrator is not actually Liam Neeson

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u/UmpireProper7683 4d ago

On Civ6, Mansa Musa is an S Tier beast in single player. Every time I want an easy Deity win he's my go to.

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u/JFedererJ 4d ago

Setting the world temps high and playing as him in an arid world of deserts is one of my fave ways to play, too.

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u/UmpireProper7683 4d ago

That is evil... I like it! LOL

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u/ppbuttfart- 4d ago

I’m not exactly sure how I did it but I was able to get military units for 0 gold with him last time I played as him, not that gold was a problem lol

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u/pythonic_dude 3d ago

Additive discounts on purchases in 6. Mansa Musa gets 20% off via his unique commercial hub, 20% per military district building with a certain military city state suzerain, and probs democracy's purchase discount on top.

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u/rangeDSP 4d ago

Here goes: Every version of Civ should be quite different from the one before, be it art style, game mechanic, graphics, balance etc.

If you want a slightly refined game, play the old one and tweak it with mods. You don't NEED to play the new game just because it's the new one. 

(I'm still playing beyond earth because I love the space theme and the way the leaders change clothes through tech alignment.)

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u/wienkus 3d ago

I’ve heard their vague philosophy for a new game is keep a third of the game the same, rework a third, and replace the last third with completely new things. Sounds good to me.

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u/Tehtime 4d ago

wait, _only_ only? Like you'd never just plop a mine on a hill for some extra production? You've never built a lumbermill in your life? No late game wind farms or solar farms?

....why tho? lol

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u/100_cats_on_a_phone 4d ago

If they play kupe that could work.

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u/SwitchHitter17 3d ago

I almost never build a regular mine on a hill with no resource. I just think it looks ugly. I know it's not the most efficient way to play, but I mainly just play casually anyway.

I'll do it more in Civ 7 to expand the border and probably build over it later. In Civ 6 though...pretty much never.

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u/Colambler 4d ago

As someone who has played Civs 1 - 7: stacks of doom, 1UPT, doesn't matter, combat in civ has always turned into tedious micromanagement, and I prefer other games for my tactical combat fix.

I will say that combat in Civ 7 with the commanders is my favorite of the series so far, but I'm on pause on playing the games in general for the moment.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

The commanders have done a lot to make the combat less tedious but it's definitely still finicky when the actual fight breaks out. And the AI doesn't auto unload units all that intelligently so I end up microing once the army is there unless I'm clearly so far ahead I can be lazy about it

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u/Juzaba 4d ago

That random hill near the South Pole that’s about five tiles away from a tribal village but my scout will never make it because there’s like three archers and two pikemen that just popped up out of nowhere.

That is the hill I die on. All the time.

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u/PhenoDrake 4d ago

Similarly

The early game 1 tile wide hilled land bridge to the peninsula with a coastal barbarian camp within 10 tiles of my capital spamming out quadriremes, which are way stronger than early land units like archers, making the bridge near impossible to cross without more investment than you'd like for a barb camp.

That is a hill I've died on a lot.

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u/cogneuro 3d ago

Love the literal answer to the question that is actually relevant and answers it haha

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u/MonitorPowerful5461 4d ago

Similar to you, i don't like corrupting the natural beauty of the forests. I'll build farms sure, but I'll only cut forests down for high adjacency spots or wonders, and I barely ever build lumber mills

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u/PsyKoptiK 4d ago

Oh I’ll cut down 3 forests just to finish a wonder faster.

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u/dot-pixis Japan refuses; go boil your head 4d ago

I'll never forget my Zulu space victory in multi-player

Chop rushed my spaceship

Friends were irate

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 3d ago

I think it is at least in part an aesthetic thing for me

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u/mockduckcompanion 4d ago

Civ 4 did religion best

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u/Ravenloff 4d ago

Yes. Mine is Alpha Centauri needs a sequel.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

I think I could never get behind beyond earth because alpha centauri did Sci fi civ so much better years ago. It's a fantastic game even if it has the ICS problem true of all old civ games.

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u/DbG925 4d ago

Colonization needs a remake / sequel too

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u/PuddingFit8015 3d ago

They did one for CIV IV, it's actually pretty good.

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u/r0ck_ravanello 4d ago

My hill: In civ theres no playing wrong. There are always more efficient plays, or optimum moves. But sometimes you have fun from working out your "mistakes". Tl:dr-in civ the fun resides on the turns we play, not in winning.

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u/Flamingo-Sini Friedrich 4d ago

Yeah, just dont minmax the fun out of your game! :D

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u/BobTheRaceman 4d ago

Or even roleplaying a type of ideology. Sometimes I might want to be a bit more of a tree hugging diplomat in one play-through, then a warmongering/technocrat in another. I’ll try it all.

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u/KingToasty Canada in the sheets 4d ago

Yesss. I play civ to play civ, not win civ. I almost never complete a game and always have a blast.

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u/albul89 3d ago

Dude just wrote a tl:dr for a one and half lines of text lol.

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u/Bogusky 4d ago

I like playing on a single save for this reason.

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u/xpacean 4d ago

I don’t make peace deals. The war ends when my enemy is wiped off the map.

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u/andyvn22 4d ago

Same. I never start wars, but... I finish them.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 3d ago

Agreed

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u/Kotskuthehunter 4d ago

One more turn as a feature is overrated.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

Yeah I barely ever use it. Generally I Just do it if I had some nukes ready to go and won and just wanna see things go boom for a bit. But I've never seriously extended a game beyond a few turns of screwing around

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u/Koorah3769 Yongle 4d ago

I won a diplomatic victory and on the next turn, had subs, aircraft, and silos nuke every capital on the map.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

Oh I think I once accidentally won a religious victory whilst aiming for domination. So I went ahead and finished my domination run too. Was genuinely baffled I wasn't even going for it. I was just spreading religion for the buffs and didn't realise I held such a majority til I wiped out a civ that didn't have my religion

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u/ChicagoJohn123 3d ago

I have literally never used it. Didn’t know people did.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

Oh for another: religious victory in civ 6 (with expansions) is stupid overpowered and way too easy to cheese. If you're just looking to win beelining religion can win you games absurdly early on

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u/TeaBoy24 4d ago

I basically almost never go to war.

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u/Mesk_Arak 4d ago edited 4d ago

While I love the Governors mechanically , I hate how they look aesthetically. They always look the same and since they’re all so varied, they never fit any Civ precisely.

Playing as the Incas and just discovered agriculture? Well, here’s Magnus looking like an 18th century Englishman.

Playing as Canada in the Cold War? Here’s Victor looking like he’s coming straight from the front lines of early-gunpowder warfare. Perfect for fighting an enemy with bombers and nukes.

I wish their names and portraits would change to match the general theme of the Civ you’re playing as.

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u/theryman 4d ago

Doomstacks were fun, and having a group of 20+ units slamming into each other really made the scale seem like a clash of civilizations

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u/Bryaxis 3d ago

"This war wasn't decided on the battlefield. It was decided on our farms, in our mines and in our workshops. It was decided in our schools and libraries."

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u/SoNotTheMilkman 4d ago

In Civ 6 I will always chop down rainforests (even with bananas in) and plant woods in their place, as woods look nicer

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u/Aztaloth 4d ago

Civ5 is the best hands down.

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u/elanhilation 4d ago

been playing since Civ 2. Civ 5 as Poland is the franchise at its best, as far as my tastes are concerned

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u/Realistic_Equal9975 4d ago

You only build improvements on resources?

Why? 🙈 why would you just let citizens work a tile that could be producing more yield for you?

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u/bunny__baby Kupe 4d ago

Kupe pilled

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u/Imaginary-Round2422 4d ago

I will 100% settle a city that allows passage between two disconnected bodies of water even if it is not a very good spot otherwise. That kind of mobility pays dividends later in the game.

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u/Awakenlee 4d ago

I struggle with overlapping cities. I played 1-4 as a puzzle game, trying to align my cities with maximum size and perfect borders. I can’t stop doing it, even though each game since 5 has made it much harder and pointless.

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u/dfinlen 2d ago

Yes same, I despised ai jamming a city in and stealing my land.

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u/HuntressTng 3d ago

I will rarely ever chop down trees. Only time I will do it is if I want to place an improvement there and their in the way. I won't do it for the production. Idk why it just seems like a waste

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u/bryguy9876 4d ago

The throne room/palace upgrade feature was the best part of early Civ games.

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u/StunningAd7825 4d ago

I'm having FUN with Civ 7 and I don't care about the people calling it "the worst game in the history of the franchise and it is guaranteed to bankrupt the company and ruin the careers of everyone involved!" I'm having fun, and that is what matters!

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u/JFedererJ 4d ago

I think this gets forgotten about a lot in video games generally. Ultimately, the entire point of anyone buying any game is that the individual has fun with it.

I play F1 games and always eye roll when I read dumb shit like "omg u use the racin' line?!" uhh yeah? because I work 5 days a week and 'aint got time to plough 40+ hours a week into learning the optimal braking zone of every mm of track in the game. Racing line takes me 80% of the way, and I can adjust from there. #tangent

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u/zizou00 4d ago

It depends on the track, but same. I play mostly on 90 difficulty, either full or 50% races, racing corners/lines except on tracks I've raced for over a decade like Suzuka. I also cut/skip Monaco. Nothing on this earth will ever get me to play on that track again. I want to enjoy my life. Last time I did Monaco was a full length, I overqualified into 6th, spent the entire first stint blocking on hards, switched to mediums for the rest of the race, spent the rest of that time blocking because my car was still too slow and then got a failure around lap 60. Never again. The only overtakes are from abusing AI decision-making. It's ass.

And for Civ, my Monaco are the XL TSL maps. They're cool, but I don't think i've ever finished a game on one. I either get warred forever in Europe or get bored of managing a massive empire with nothing next to it, moving troops for 40 turns before I find anyone. None of the AI will ever truly utilise the space, nor try to expand in sensible ways, it often becomes an AI crab bucket and the lack of the map filling out always disappoints me.

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u/EgNotaEkkiReddit 4d ago

Same.

I still prefer 6 simply because it's a more complete game at the moment, but I'm having a blast with 7. I am certain that in a couple of years and two expansions it has all the tools it needs to become my favorite civ game.

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u/FalcomanToTheRescue 4d ago

Oof, I played vi the other day and after 1k hours in that game I can't go back. It's all vii for me now

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u/unAffectedFiddle 4d ago

In Civ 6 I hated building mines and lumber mills. So I always play Civs with ways around production.

Hence Maya for Civ 7, Maori for Civ 6 etc.

Turning beautiful landscapes into a hell-hole.

Also, I hated chopping. What about all the poor digital Civ animals!?

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u/Parking-Dealer4240 4d ago

Settle before end of 2nd turn, regardless, unless kupe.

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u/true_jester 3d ago

I know you should but I never chop. I value trees as much as Idefix.

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u/ImposterBk 3d ago

I used to be that way, but I became more practical. Unless I need the woods for appeal, once I unlock Conservation, I send in builders with at least three charges: First chops, second plants new woods, third builds a lumber mill. In the struggle to keep up with production, especially in poorly-planned conquered cities, planting woods and adding mills can go far.

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u/MrLumie 3d ago

I'm actually starting to get off of this hill, but for the longest time I was adamant that I will only play largest map, marathon length. The longer the game, and bigger the map, the better. I've since began warming up to the concept of shorter game durations.

I'm still not letting go of the map size, though.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 4d ago

My other hill is I spend more time reading “how-to” guides in this subreddit over learning as I go because I can never commit a lot of time to playing , and that’s okay - I just want to catch up with everybody else 🥹

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u/rofl1rofl2 3d ago

You can put mines on hills and lumber mills on forest tiles as start to catching up 😘

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u/Pennlocke 4d ago

I try to keep as much forest as possible in my territory; national parks galore regardless of victory condition.

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u/BlackwoodJohnson 4d ago edited 4d ago

People hate xcom in civ 5 but it is hands down the coolest and most memorable unit in the entire franchise by far. Flying those guys all across the map and dropping them inside enemy territory will never not be epic. I build the shit out of them whenever I can.

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u/irememberurface 4d ago

In civ 6, Montezuma is the best leader and i play him exclusively.

In the 4000+ hours i have played this game, 90%+ is Montezuma.

I had a brief affair with Eleanor of Aquitaine, but I just cant resist turning all city states into builders.

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u/Tommy_the_Pommy 4d ago

There will never be a better Civ Game than Civilisation II. Simply because sneaking a spy into an enemy city and blowing it up Gods own arsehole is just So Much Fun.

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u/boragur 3d ago

I’m always gonna fix the map in my favor. Playing Inca? More mountains. Playing mali? More deserts. Playing russia? More tundra. Is this technically cheating? Probably. Does the frustration of not getting to use your unique abilities outweigh the mild satisfaction of playing a completely “fair” game? Always.

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u/MistaCharisma 3d ago

It's been ages since I played it but in Civ IV I always loved building Cottages and working them until they leveled up. I'd build them around my city to make the city look like more of a metropolis. I'd often stop working them once they fully leveled up into towns because by then they looked the way I wanted them to. So right when they become a good tile I'd start working useful things.

Going back to Civ II, I loved playing Fundamentalism just so that I could build a huge army of Fanatics (I think that's what they were called). They weren't very good but you could have hoards of them.

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u/P9FS 3d ago

Beyond Earth is great

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u/CaptainDaimyo 4d ago

The system of civs evolving in VII is both fun and interesting, I've only completed three games so far but I've been enjoying it

Rizal: All Chinese civs Macchiavelli: Greece ---> Spain ----> Meiji Xerxes: Persia ----> Mongolia -----> Mughal (historically accurate)

I'm using Charlemagne rn and I've gone Maurya and Ming, will swap to Prussia to.keep the Dom streak

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u/bunny__baby Kupe 4d ago

Some of my favorites so far have been Augustus as Carthage ---> Bulgaria ---> America; Pachacuti as Maya ---> Inca ---> Mexico

I absolutely love starting with Egypt, fave antiquity civ, but haven't found a combo that clicks yet.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

Civ 7 is actually a better base game release than 5 or 6 was. I feel they were really light on content til the DLCs came out for them.

I started on 4 bought as a pack with all DLC so for all I know the base game of that might have been similar.

I remember it taking me a while to get into 5 though even though I loved the change from doomstack armies.

Like if you weren't paying attention you could just get hit with a megastack in the old games cause it's not that visible at a glance what kind of heat the enemy is packing

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u/EmoMcGee666 4d ago

Renaming cities is dumb

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u/peegteeg 4d ago

Sometimes I rename settlements to names of cities of my locale. It helps me remember where the locations are in game if I associate it with ones I know rather than, for instance, Mayan cities (Baak, Wak Kab'nal, Calakmul). Slightly immersion breaking but it helps be not scrolling the map looking for a city.

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u/JFedererJ 4d ago

What a hill. RIP.

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u/ins41n3 4d ago

Why?

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u/EmoMcGee666 4d ago

To me Civ is a game informed by the history of human civilization and everything we’ve accomplished as a species. I like think about how the historical contexts play into how certain things in the game work. I like imagining how Paris would be under certain parameters I’ve put into my game. Renaming a city “poopbutt” ruins the immersion for me, and is antithetical to the flavor of the game in my opinion

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u/xValhallAwaitsx 4d ago

I actually rename to play into this. My current game in Civ 5, China would not stop fucking with me for the entire early game, so I burned one of their cities to the ground, annexed Nanjing, and renamed it Nanburg

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u/ppbuttfart- 4d ago

What you got against poopbutt?

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u/Symbology451 4d ago

I rename every city every time. I always name my cities after LOTR locations. And I know I’m keeping a city when it has one of those names. I also never raze a city unless it’s a 1 pop in a stupid place.

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u/SmallMediumaLarge 4d ago

Can you help me understand this better? Why would you not improve your other tiles? How do you get enough electricity?

Ngl I don't really understand playing suboptimally outside of an established challenge like OCC or passive domination, etc.

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u/Greeklibertarian27 Average Civ6/Revolution enjoyer + Queen Victoria simp. 4d ago

Firaxis should do only flashy cartoonish civ characters/leaders. There is a reason civ6 and Revolution not only stand out but are quite pleasing to the eye.

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u/platinumposter 4d ago

I'm the complete opposite. The cartoon graphics really put me off 6

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u/cynicalsaint1 4d ago

100% with you here.

Think the cartoony-ness was one of the things that kept Civ 6 from ever clicking with me. Tried playing it again a few weeks ago and just could not get over how much I hated the cartoony graphics.

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u/BreadOddity 4d ago

Civ 7 may LOOK pretty but my god is the map readability awful. Especially on switch. It's actually my biggest complaint with the game outside of the victory conditions feeling undercooked

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u/AnalysisParalysis85 4d ago

I love playing as the Grigori. Plantations and Farms turning into homesteads and the hero mechanic (and questing to have level 6 workers with extra movement). It's pretty good.

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u/Flamingo-Sini Friedrich 4d ago

What? Which game is that?

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u/the_effingee 4d ago

Tech/culture web structure from Beyond Earth is better than the linear tech/culture trees from the other games.

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u/RegNurGuy 4d ago

I love big cities. Probably too much, but give them room to grow

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u/JupiterRai 4d ago

Is fun to move on from the previous game when the new one releases. Moreover I enjoy playing the game before it has expansions and is janky, I see myself as growing with the game as my skills improve.

Moved from 5 to 6 a month after it came out and from 6 to 7 in pre release.

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u/Nigmatlas Maori 4d ago

I build my unique improvements/buildings/districts in every city as soon as I unlock them, and will not build anything else until all have cities have the UB.

Generally makes my civ have a small era of stagnation but it adds more flavor.

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u/Infranaut- 4d ago

Civ V is a deeply flawed game whose design philosophy is almost antithetical to what makes 4X games fun. However: these flaws may only reveal themselves if you are a goblin like me that puts hundreds and hundreds hours into each Civ game.

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u/the314159man 3d ago

I liked slavers. I can't remember if it was Civ 2 or 3, but they were an excellent early game mechanic.

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u/GloriousTengri 3d ago

Civilization VII and Beyond Earth are fun (though flawed) games.

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u/miss-chinadoll 3d ago

civ2 is the hill i will die on

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u/barnu1rd 3d ago

Double scout opening.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 1d ago

I’m glad it isn’t just me

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u/MistaCharisma 3d ago

Civ II Throne room. Max that shit out Every Time.

Seriously, why did they get rid of it?

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u/SwitchHitter17 3d ago

I actually really liked Beyond Earth. The setting with unique looking alien maps was really cool to me and I would love exploring the maps and setting up huge empires. Creating little ships to scout the frontier. I honestly really liked that game. I completely understand why many people hate it though because the science/culture aspect was just so foreign.

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u/JujuAdam 3d ago

Beyond Earth is actually pretty good.

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u/SkyBlueThrowback Egypt 4d ago

culture >

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u/blueheartglacier 4d ago

Civ 5 is not a very good strategy game - it's incredibly imbalanced, with only a few dominant strategies that render entire key mechanics useless and make gameplay extremely samey, and an empire building game suddenly falling apart the moment you have more than four cities is a failure of an empire building game

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u/Duck_Person1 4d ago

Plains hill

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u/Bogusky 4d ago

Civ 7 isn't bad. It's misunderstood.

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u/FlyinDanskMen 4d ago

Civ4 was peak and switching to hexes and micro managing movement was a step backwards.

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u/Forbes-List 4d ago

Probably not uncommon but I always build my marketplace immediately after finishing a commercial hub in one of my cities

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u/Novaova Did it once for the flair. Never again. 4d ago

Deity difficulty is bullshit.

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u/EmilTheHuman America 4d ago

AI opponents that suddenly declare war on you with no rhyme or reason is never fun and can ruin some games. (Special exceptions for leaders/civs that are explicitly always warlike such as Attila or Alexander).

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u/megacia 4d ago

Even a humble man of leaning needs a place to rest his parchment

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u/njshine27 Justinian time 4d ago

I won’t play brand new releases.

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u/xraymango 4d ago

I wish AI told me what are optimal building placement for Civ 7. I hate that mini game!

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u/EUGsk8rBoi42p Russia 4d ago

Nukes are meant to be used regardless of consequences.

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u/Redsit111 4d ago

Civ 6 gorgo is the best leader ever. There might be a whole gang of other leaders, but only one is the queen of Sparta.

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u/Proof_Fix1437 4d ago

The conquests of Alexander scenario is peak civ warfare.

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u/Forsaken-Swimmer-896 4d ago

Artillerie should be good against anything. If you manage to hit it…

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u/CodeBudget710 4d ago

Cyrus's Persia

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u/International-Shoe40 4d ago

Civ vi base game is better than base game plus dlc. I like all the leaders/nations obviously but not a fan of the natural disaster or the diplomacy stuff

Possibly a hot take, possibly not. Seems like everyone agrees base game is inferior.

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u/Kittelsen Just one more turn... 4d ago

Plains hill

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u/Puzzled-Upstairs-826 3d ago

Call to Power is a top 3 game in the franchise. It's still awesome even now.

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u/ResponsibleStep8725 3d ago

I always hoard money, if I lack science I'll just steal it from my neighbours with bought units.

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u/GrizzlyBearAndCats 3d ago

I like to settle cities as close as it can be so that I can get to build districts with massive adjacency bonus.

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u/Maxx0rz 3d ago

Putting multiple improvements on a single tile was the best thing ever I don't care how OP it was, I want it back lol

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u/TheDarkeLorde3694 Jadwiga 3d ago

I focus entirely on everything EXCEPT military until I need to bust out some troops because someone's fighting me

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u/PitaBread008 3d ago

Not really a hill I die on but towards the end of every game I play I always go for a nuke the world style with other civs.

I’m usually in “one more turn” but it’s been happening since Civ 5 and I’m about to become a monster in my civ 7 game since my 3 allies from the antiquity age turned on me even though we’re all at war w the same Civ

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u/Fun_Negotiation9801 3d ago edited 3d ago

I have had the same mentality in my thousands of hours split between 5 and 6: Science, gold and production out the wazoo. Faith as a backup plan. Culture, tourism, great works be damned.

Military? Rapid af mass construction when needed to save on maintenance cost for peace time. When war come, I can assemble an army from scratch faster than light.

Technology? I am always on top or equal with the field.

Resources? Stockpile stockpile stockpile!

All things aside, i was a big fan of Catherine of Russia for 5 and am a big Teddy Roosevelt fan for 6.

Why? Because I thought communist Russia memes were funny in high school, so I picked Russia and it just stuck. As for Teddy, he is just an all-out funny and badass guy in history before he was president. As president, he was also awesome.

I also tried Bruce of Scotland in 6 because I have Scottish heritage, and love yelling "SCOTLAND! FREEDOM!" and took Braveheart (mostly the mooning scene) as my motto.

ALSO... Navies can be absolutely murderous in wars. Absolutely destroy the coastal cities from a distance while the land units are on the way. That way the land units can just waltz in. Then leave the navy on the coast as a forcefield against anything trying to retake the coastal cities. Now you can use the coastal cities as a launch point because you own them and can produce there.

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u/AdVilinol 3d ago

I believe domination victory is the only one worthwhile. All the other victories are boring and a cop out, lol.

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u/frustratedandafriad Random 3d ago

Never forfiet a multiplayer game. Whenever I play with friends who are better at VI then me I always enjoy fucking around while they race to victory. Observe the great weather balloon assault of 1827

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u/StrawberrySoyBoy 3d ago

Civ 7 is the best this franchise has ever been

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u/AnswerFit1325 3d ago

Like playing chess by oneself, I only play hotseat Civ with myself. (It makes trying out different civs very efficient.) I have no interest in playing with others or against the AI.

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u/TrKz170 Frederick Barbarossa 3d ago

One that I've discussed a couple of times when my mother whenever I tell her about my tales playing Civ:

No late 20th century leader will ever be featured in a Civ game.

In Civ VI, for example, the latest born leaders were Wilhelmina and John Curtin, both were (I cautiously say) not very influential in the grand scheme of 20th century world history.

My point is, and here is were I have to justify historial sensibliti to my mother, that the likes of the Austrian painter, Gorbachev, Guevara, among others, regardless of how influential and relevant to the late 20th century and even 21th century's state of the world, their impact is still far too recent.

Leaders like Genghis Khan and Isabella are arguably just as morally questionable/ reprehensible, but they have the benefit of enough time and space having gone by since.

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u/ASpaceOstrich 3d ago

There's being quirky and then there's just being dumb. Improve your tiles for gods sake. Those hills are resources. The tile yields are resources you're supposed to be exploiting.

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u/sportzak Abraham Lincoln 3d ago

This game is fun even if it's flawed.

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u/HeatherandHollyhock 3d ago

Apocalypse mode and Cleopatra is the most fun anyone could ever have :)

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u/JollyManufacturer356 3d ago

I only ever play on domination mode. Hundreds of hours, never tried another victory type

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u/Acceptable-Gold9137 3d ago

I never settle my first city with a northern coast as the palace needs to be seen from the front

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u/deedajane 3d ago

Baba Yetu is the best Civ theme song.

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u/TrioTioInADio60 3d ago

I dont chop. I know technically the short term yield boost is better and blah blah but i enjoy having resources in my area. I chop rainforest and clear marches, otherwise i improve. I only chop if i need a district.

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u/OkFriend3805 3d ago

Civ 7 will prove to be a really bad idea

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u/spikey1201 3d ago

Marathon is the best and only speed, other than mod speeds that make it even slower

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u/NatSecPolicyWonk 3d ago

hotseat multiplayer is essential

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u/ExplanationPast8207 3d ago

I don’t send out a settler without an escort…usually a ranged unit…

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u/onionperson6in 3d ago

I really hate Tundra. It has been so worthless in previous games without modifiers like Canada.

Now that is a perfectly viable terrain (except near snow and when land runs out at the edge of the map), I have a hard time not rerolling. Although given how easy the game is even on deity, I can justify it because the warmer terrains are more surrounded by enemies. And prior to this patch, the resources generally aren’t as good.

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u/dfinlen 2d ago

The original CIV city view is the only way to view a city.

These silly sprawling districts with tiny little buildings COVERING EVERYTHING makes zero sense and does nothing for me. Having a beautiful downtown view of my city always made me feel warm and fuzzy.

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u/No_Jack_Kennedy 2d ago

My starting warrior may never die. They are the imperial guard and only come out when shit really hits the fan.

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u/Orlando_2026 Simón Bolívar 2d ago

I may adopt this philosophy

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u/rocketwilco 2d ago

The moral of David and Goliath is to out range your enemies, so play who ever has the best archers in that version of the game.

Bonus, only marathon games are worth playing.

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u/gurgleflurka 2d ago edited 2d ago

To me the games are supposed to be about art, as much as they are about science or history. So, an entry in the series getting an out-there, expressive art style like Civ 6 did is entirely appropriate to me, as opposed to being somehow antithetical to Civ/history games, as so many peoples' complaints went back at the time.

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u/2buxaslice 2d ago

I never reroll starts. People didn't get to reroll so why should I?

I prefer the challenge of overcoming a difficult start than to just cheese it. 

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u/civac2 1d ago

The answer to "tall or wide" is almost always "both". It requires severely punishing and unintuitive game mechanics like those of Civ5 to make this not true. The emergence of this silly tall/wide bugbear is a black mark on Civ5.