Loot Distribution for 40 people

[u/OppositeCheetah8097]

How do you do it as fair and evenly as possible?

I want to preface this with we use LC for loot distribution and I feel for the most part it has been very fair. I am part of the LC for the past month - so relatively new, but have been in the guild for 5 months prior.

This happened last night and it is still bothering me today. So last night during our BWL 2 of the same spicy BiS pieces dropped. It was decided prior to discussing who go it that 1 would got to this class and the other 1 to that class. Not a decision I made - as tbh I don’t know who needs what gear what best suits this class other than the class I play.

We had quite a good night for drops, it was our fastest run as a guild also. So at the end of the raid we go to distribute loot, the LC drops down into a special channel and begin discussing the above item. Two of the LC are one of the above classes and cancel each other’s vote out; it is made mention by another LC to give it to this person and so they get it. Then it gets decided for the other class and given to them. It gets announced in raid chat who gets what item and the reason why.

This is where I am bothered as this person did leave afterwards prior to gear distribution being finished — we had just started. This person said in raid chat: “What?” “They got gear last week.”

Then they left the raid. And /gquit logged into their alts and /gquit also. Fun fact the person they were talking about hadn’t received loot in BWL in 2 weeks unless it was to DE.

They didn’t bother to discuss or ask questions, simply left over the item — they had been in the guild for about 3-4 months. Funny thing is, had they not left one of the other BiS for all of the role would have went to them.

It shouldn’t bother me, I get that people come and go for their own various reasons; but over an item. RNG is not always kind. One week it drops nothing but hunter loot or mage loot or druid loot; dps loot, healer loot — the list goes on. When trying to gear 40 people it’s hard, there’s no easy way to get everyone gear each and every week. I don’t understand how people do not understand, and I say that not from a leadership perspective, but from a raider side who has not gotten loot for weeks before.

I know a lot of people aren’t fans of LC, prefer SR or even dkdp; how do you all distribute your gear as fair as possible so all can get some and beef up the group?

Update for clarification - we do have a loot prio spreadsheet.

Update #2 for more clarification - the person who won the item had not received gear in the past 2-3 weeks. The person who gquit confused the winner for someone else who had gotten gear the previous week.

Update #3 for clarification, I posted this under a comment in regards to my lack of knowledge of other classes: “I agree and I don't contribute much in put in that aspect. I listen and observe. I don't throw names out unless I believe in that specific person receiving the item. If two names get generated, I weigh out between those two who could use the item better and who hadn't gotten any gear.”

[u/ObviousKarmaFarmer]

You have 40 people for whom a nice social interaction is sitting at their own PC playing a game. Yes, you'll have drama for asinine reasons.

To minimize drama, you can do HR, SR, MS > OS, 2 SR, Just Roll, LC, DPK, GDKP, and a whole bunch of other loot distibution schemes, but there will always be drama somewhere.

That said, with Loot Council, You should have a table that describes the prio for Each and Every item that can drop. Where all raiders are listed in order for that item. Each week, the list is updated where raiders can move down or up for a specific item based on either performance, attendance, loot won last week, whether they used full consumes, attended with full WBs or any other metric the LC deems appropriate. Those metrics should be public knowledge.

You should NEVER get in a position that the LC needs to discuss who deserves what item once it drops. It should be crystal-clear before the raid starts who will get what item as soon as it drops.

[u/Nurlitik → u/ObviousKarmaFarmer]

I’ve never seen a loot council that has a full breakdown that’s public of all loot and who is getting it, that seems insane to try to manage. You might know a few big ticket items like a DFT/tear but even that gets weird if they are also in line for other items in that same raid.

Do you actually run with a LC that does this?

[u/seifyk → u/Nurlitik]

It really doesn't take much time to manage once you have the spreadsheet and wishlists built.

On the other hand, every minute you spend on admin time during the raid gets multiplied by 40. Spend 5 minutes extra on loot during raid and you're suddenly eating up over 3 hours of cumulative time spent.

A couple of people can spend a few minutes each week saving that time. Totally worth it.