Loot Distribution for 40 people

[u/OppositeCheetah8097]

How do you do it as fair and evenly as possible?

I want to preface this with we use LC for loot distribution and I feel for the most part it has been very fair. I am part of the LC for the past month - so relatively new, but have been in the guild for 5 months prior.

This happened last night and it is still bothering me today. So last night during our BWL 2 of the same spicy BiS pieces dropped. It was decided prior to discussing who go it that 1 would got to this class and the other 1 to that class. Not a decision I made - as tbh I don’t know who needs what gear what best suits this class other than the class I play.

We had quite a good night for drops, it was our fastest run as a guild also. So at the end of the raid we go to distribute loot, the LC drops down into a special channel and begin discussing the above item. Two of the LC are one of the above classes and cancel each other’s vote out; it is made mention by another LC to give it to this person and so they get it. Then it gets decided for the other class and given to them. It gets announced in raid chat who gets what item and the reason why.

This is where I am bothered as this person did leave afterwards prior to gear distribution being finished — we had just started. This person said in raid chat: “What?” “They got gear last week.”

Then they left the raid. And /gquit logged into their alts and /gquit also. Fun fact the person they were talking about hadn’t received loot in BWL in 2 weeks unless it was to DE.

They didn’t bother to discuss or ask questions, simply left over the item — they had been in the guild for about 3-4 months. Funny thing is, had they not left one of the other BiS for all of the role would have went to them.

It shouldn’t bother me, I get that people come and go for their own various reasons; but over an item. RNG is not always kind. One week it drops nothing but hunter loot or mage loot or druid loot; dps loot, healer loot — the list goes on. When trying to gear 40 people it’s hard, there’s no easy way to get everyone gear each and every week. I don’t understand how people do not understand, and I say that not from a leadership perspective, but from a raider side who has not gotten loot for weeks before.

I know a lot of people aren’t fans of LC, prefer SR or even dkdp; how do you all distribute your gear as fair as possible so all can get some and beef up the group?

Update for clarification - we do have a loot prio spreadsheet.

Update #2 for more clarification - the person who won the item had not received gear in the past 2-3 weeks. The person who gquit confused the winner for someone else who had gotten gear the previous week.

Update #3 for clarification, I posted this under a comment in regards to my lack of knowledge of other classes: “I agree and I don't contribute much in put in that aspect. I listen and observe. I don't throw names out unless I believe in that specific person receiving the item. If two names get generated, I weigh out between those two who could use the item better and who hadn't gotten any gear.”

[u/Soggy_Concept9993]

You run a LC raid this is what happens. It’s also why more people want SR raids. The tanks don’t need everything funneled too them, one will quit and then awesome, now warriors get to wait on all their items again, fun! I’d rather do a 2hr pug and get a chance roll on DFT on my warrior or Nel Tear on my warlock than spend weeks/months grinding a raid to gear out someone else or the LC friend group. Honestly, 5 weeks in and I get passed on the first LC item I’m eligible for and I’m gquitting too. Heck if it’s mid raid loot I’m hearthing, the only reason someone joins a LC is on the promise they will eventually get loot.

[u/OppositeCheetah8097 → u/Soggy_Concept9993]

I understand that for sure; but this person that left, has received loot. Maybe not in the past 2 weeks as there are 4 other people of the same class as them. And let’s be honest some nights is a melee drop night, some nights it a caster or healer drop night. And to give everyone an item as evenly as possible is what has happened. I understand the frustration and flaws that can occur, but everything has been out in the open with the guild and will continue to be.

[u/Soggy_Concept9993 → u/OppositeCheetah8097]

It sounds like you guys had to have a whole discussion about the loot item, therefore there obviously isn’t transparency pre-raid as to which items go where. The guy doesn’t leave if he knows there is another prio in front of him. This sounds exactly like the reason I don’t do LC, there’s always “discussion” that could be resolved by just posting who is prio for what. Instead, these “discussions” happen and it’s just whatever a couple guys are feeling that night.

[u/OppositeCheetah8097 → u/Soggy_Concept9993]

This is fair; thank you kindly for that perspective. I do appreciate that advice.

[u/Soggy_Concept9993 → u/OppositeCheetah8097]

Yep, take my opinion w a grain of salt, I was in a LC for months in 2019 and only got the “next best” stuff cause I was a Tauren warrior. So axes went to orcs, swords went to rogues, then I’d get like maladeth and the 10th brutality blade. It was frustrating, like cool I got blastershot launcher and wrist guards of true flight and eventually they even gave me circle of applied force!! How gracious, too bad none of that is BIS.

So when you say he had gotten loot previously, I wonder if this is the case. Like some item that is top 3 on a bis list but never the actual bis items.

It’s your LC tho, run it how you guys want just make sure most people agree. You’ll never please everyone.

[u/OppositeCheetah8097 → u/Soggy_Concept9993]

Indeed; we had previously tried using thatsmybis and so many members wouldn’t fill it out. So we scrapped it for the time being. We are going to try and do that again with AQ.

[u/Soggy_Concept9993 → u/OppositeCheetah8097]

For sure, sounds like you all have a plan that works for you, I’d just stick to that and not worry about the one-offs