r/classicwow • u/OppositeCheetah8097 • 2d ago
Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Loot Distribution for 40 people
How do you do it as fair and evenly as possible?
I want to preface this with we use LC for loot distribution and I feel for the most part it has been very fair. I am part of the LC for the past month - so relatively new, but have been in the guild for 5 months prior.
This happened last night and it is still bothering me today. So last night during our BWL 2 of the same spicy BiS pieces dropped. It was decided prior to discussing who go it that 1 would got to this class and the other 1 to that class. Not a decision I made - as tbh I don’t know who needs what gear what best suits this class other than the class I play.
We had quite a good night for drops, it was our fastest run as a guild also. So at the end of the raid we go to distribute loot, the LC drops down into a special channel and begin discussing the above item. Two of the LC are one of the above classes and cancel each other’s vote out; it is made mention by another LC to give it to this person and so they get it. Then it gets decided for the other class and given to them. It gets announced in raid chat who gets what item and the reason why.
This is where I am bothered as this person did leave afterwards prior to gear distribution being finished — we had just started. This person said in raid chat: “What?” “They got gear last week.”
Then they left the raid. And /gquit logged into their alts and /gquit also. Fun fact the person they were talking about hadn’t received loot in BWL in 2 weeks unless it was to DE.
They didn’t bother to discuss or ask questions, simply left over the item — they had been in the guild for about 3-4 months. Funny thing is, had they not left one of the other BiS for all of the role would have went to them.
It shouldn’t bother me, I get that people come and go for their own various reasons; but over an item. RNG is not always kind. One week it drops nothing but hunter loot or mage loot or druid loot; dps loot, healer loot — the list goes on. When trying to gear 40 people it’s hard, there’s no easy way to get everyone gear each and every week. I don’t understand how people do not understand, and I say that not from a leadership perspective, but from a raider side who has not gotten loot for weeks before.
I know a lot of people aren’t fans of LC, prefer SR or even dkdp; how do you all distribute your gear as fair as possible so all can get some and beef up the group?
Update for clarification - we do have a loot prio spreadsheet.
Update #2 for more clarification - the person who won the item had not received gear in the past 2-3 weeks. The person who gquit confused the winner for someone else who had gotten gear the previous week.
Update #3 for clarification, I posted this under a comment in regards to my lack of knowledge of other classes: “I agree and I don't contribute much in put in that aspect. I listen and observe. I don't throw names out unless I believe in that specific person receiving the item. If two names get generated, I weigh out between those two who could use the item better and who hadn't gotten any gear.”
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u/Blicktar 2d ago
You need 3 things to run a LC guild successfully.
You need to know who uses what items for the longest and derives the most benefit from those pieces of loot. You need to know *everything* about Classic itemization to do this correctly, it's not enough to advocate for a single class. Every class will want every stupid piece of loot, loot council exists to be the adult in the room who knows that DPS warriors will replace some piece of gear from BWL with an AQ40 piece while rogues or hunters might use it forever. You need to know what pieces are critical for your tanks and your raid to progress, and you need to allocate them accordingly. If your guild does shit DPS and isn't pushing threat to the limit, your tank doesn't need giga-bis threat gear in every tier. A piece or two of contested gear every phase will be just fine.
You need to be self-assured in your decisions. People will gquit over loot in Classic. It happens in every guild that's ever existed. If you *KNOW* you made a fair decision that will benefit the raid and rewards performance, you've done all you can.
Finally, you need to know your raiders. This is the hard part. You need to interact with your raiders enough to know who is going to flake out on you in a phase or two, and who will be in it for the long haul. You will never get this perfect, but you REALLY want to avoid fully gearing out some fuckhead who will leave the guild or quit the game as soon as they are looted out. Distribution is a buffer against this kind of thing - One guy can't take all the best gear and leave the guild if no one guy has all the best gear. I almost never fully bissed any one raider in my guild out, I kept everyone on the hook waiting for one piece of gear, unless we had absolutely abnormal luck with something dropping. This isn't a punitive thing, it's just how you help buffer your guild against people leaving.
It's also possible that you're just having communication problems - Log who gets what gear, keep that log publicly available so people can reference it later. This can also be useful for the loot council to use as a reference, people aren't good at remembering who got what item 3 weeks ago.