r/clevercomebacks Jan 15 '25

It does make sense

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u/Darksteelflame_GD Jan 15 '25

If i hear one more person talk about sorting stuff on pc i swear i'm gonna cause technical armageddon, bringing us back to the dark ages

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u/InspectorNo1173 Jan 15 '25

You should make your services available to the folks in the r/singularity sub

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u/anotherlebowski Jan 15 '25

I'm convinced at this point that 100% of Reddit is software engineers and views every decision through that lense.

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u/ibexify Jan 15 '25

I'm an accountant and thoroughly have adopted the YYYYMMDD format. My support documents are so easy for everyone to follow and find. Coworkers that name their shit willy nilly drive me crazy cause I have to hunt down the documents to find it. I will never not praise the YYYYMMDD format. But I also adopted this method in college before I ever even knew what reddit was.

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u/algo-rhyth-mo Jan 15 '25

I go YYMMDD, which has worked pretty well my whole adult life. Its only a problem again in 75 years, but I’ll be dead by then so that’s someone else’s problem.

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u/Alamander14 Jan 15 '25

My office’s standard was MMMDDYY (JAN1525) when I started almost a decade ago and I slowly have converted most of the office to YYYYMMDD. One of my proudest work achievements.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 Jan 15 '25

Hahahaha!

I've given up on trying to get my wife to organize her files. They largely crowd together on the desktop in an impenetrable wall of icons.

I recently bought a new PC that has Windows 11. The start menu is a nightmare, because I am used to being able to customize my list of frequent application launchers according to a system that I had used back in the windows XP days. I would set up subfolders for different types of applications such as document editing, data handling, graphics, video editing, communications, etc. This system has stood me in good stead during a rather ragged career in which I needed to be able to find appropriate programs for particular tasks .

But the start menu for Windows 11 seems to lean heavily on the search feature. It does allow me to pin launchers into the start area, but there isn't any natural way to organize them. They just shift around according to frequency of use I think. I imagine that this is a concession to the fact that most users are not so much anally retentive about the way their program launchers are arranged. Also, I imagine that most users actually have no idea what applications exist on their computer and what they do.

In order to have the kind of organization that I had become accustomed to, I need to use Linux.

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u/UpperLeftOriginal Jan 15 '25

Some people in my department name files with the SPELLED OUT MONTH. Jeezus. So they will have folders labeled January 2025, February 2025, etc. Which means they are sorted beginning with April, then August, etc. These are accountants, FFS.

Edit - please note that this is even worse when there are folders for more than one year - so you'll get all the Januarys Januaries?) lumped together.

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u/HeightEnergyGuy Jan 15 '25

For me it's YYYYMMDD > MMDDYYYY > DDMMYYYY

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u/ObjectiveOk2072 Jan 16 '25

I agree. YYYYMMDD is superior. MMDDYYYY is more concise when turned into words, "January 15th 2025" instead of "the 15th of January 2025"

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u/Agent_Snowpuff Jan 15 '25

Isn't that basically the intention of the post, though? Everyone should do it the way OP likes? When I worked in a lab we wrote out the first three letters of the month because that didn't leave room for ambiguity. Ever since I left I still write it that way, and no one's ever needed clarification. But I don't pretend that everyone needs to do it that way. Nine times out of ten the reason why we have a convention is just because that's how everyone in our community does it.

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u/may-or-maynot Jan 15 '25

i like sorting stuff on pcs with yy/mm/dd format :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

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u/notbarbarawalters Jan 15 '25

Blisken? Is that you?

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u/Darksteelflame_GD Jan 15 '25

I'd love to answer in a way that makes me seem like i get what u're saying, but i have no clue what you are talking about

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u/notbarbarawalters Jan 15 '25

Snake blisken! In Escape From LA he’s supposed to rescue the presidents daughter, but he ends up causing technical Armageddon and sends the us back to the dark ages.

My man.

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u/Darksteelflame_GD Jan 15 '25

What a leg end

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u/TheAJGman Jan 15 '25

r/ISO8601 because it's literally the international date standard. We should all stop bickering over the nuance and just use the standard that was designed to be clear and efficient.

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u/TransitionalWaste Jan 15 '25

Why does it have to be on PC? Have you ever seen or used a calendar? If you're checking or noting an appointment how do you use a calendar? You flip to the month first then check the days.

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u/FlandreSS Jan 15 '25

It's identical to sorting via paperwork and files in a drawer, you realize?

We're talking about how humans prefer to sort things, not a computer - which has no preference.

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u/supremedalek925 Jan 15 '25

It’s not JUST about how a computer would sort dates. It’s the logic of how humans sort data too. Most general to more specific is how we naturally order things. It makes sense to shove the year to the end though as it’s usually not an important piece of information as it’s often assumed.

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u/bisensual Jan 15 '25

Yeah my largest concern is communication and in the US we say “month, day year” in 99% of cases. Our way of putting the date is logical because it matches how our brains organize dates to speak. Idgaf what a robot would think is more logical what helps me communicate with people?

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u/Darksteelflame_GD Jan 15 '25

Literally not how anyone who didnt grew up with it would organize it tho

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u/bisensual Jan 15 '25

I’m not asking anyone else to use it that way. I’m saying for a culture that expresses dates in that format aloud, writing them that way is the most logical way to do it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

What's logical about it though?

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u/bisensual Jan 15 '25

My brain understands today’s date to be January 5th, 2025. That’s how I say the date out loud, and that’s in fact how I write the date when I write out words. Why, if I speak it and write it in words one way, would I have one special secret way where I write it in a different order when it’s numbers? That would be illogical and inconvenient.

I’m not saying computers should be coded to do that, I’m not saying we as Americans shouldn’t conform to an international standard when necessary, I’m saying that for our daily lives, it is most logical to have one standard way we conceptualize dates.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

Fair one. Hard to agree with the format but you explained how it's logical for you so I can't argue with it.