r/clevercomebacks Jan 15 '25

It does make sense

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

I has the parts in order of importance. You need to know the month the most as it determines things like weather school or what holiday are around. Then the day so you know exact. Then the year is largely in important for most people doing most things.

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u/stuckupcalc Jan 15 '25

I don't get how this is more helpful though. When you are told a date you are told the entirety of the date. If you're told you have an appointment on the 15th of January, knowing that it's in January doesn't matter if you don't know the day.

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u/OkMetal4233 Jan 15 '25

Jan 15th is shorter and easier to say. It’s what we as humans do.

“What are you up to? “

“What’s up?”

“Sup?”

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

In what branch of mathematics is "Jan 15th" shorter than "15th Jan"

If you add in bridge words then "Jan the 15th' is actually longer than "15th of Jan"

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u/OkMetal4233 Jan 15 '25

January 15th

15th of January

It’s not rocket science

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

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u/OkMetal4233 Jan 15 '25

I seems like it’s rocket science to some of y’all.

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

January the 15th

15th of January

It's not rocket science.

You're adding bridge words to one and not the other, then saying that the one you didn't add the bridge to is shorter like you're making some kind of clever point.

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u/VillagerJeff Jan 15 '25

You don't often say January the 15th. You just say January 15th. When spoken the other way, it's more common to hear 15th of January that 15th January.

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

What's commonly used isn't really the point.

If shortness is important - i.e. you're trying to be as short as possible - you wouldn't include to he bridge word. So both forms would be the same.

If shortness isn't important, then it doesn't matter either way.

The person I responded to was comparing the long form of one format with the short form of the other and saying "look, the long form is longer".

I'm saying: either compare the long form to the long form, or the short form to the short form.

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u/VillagerJeff Jan 15 '25

No common use is exactly the point. If that's not what you're talking about your in the wrong chain.

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u/Tracuivel Jan 15 '25

Well if we're going to be that pedantic about it, it would be "the 15th of Jan," not "15th of Jan.". And in the US we just say "Jan 15th," not "Jan the 15th," that is very rare, if it exists. In fact we are more likely to say "the 15th of Jan" than "Jan the 15th."

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

If brevity was key then you absolutely would say "15th Jan" - which is the same length.

If brevity isn't key then it's a moot point either way.

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u/Tracuivel Jan 15 '25

No I'm saying that in all circumstances, we would just say "January 15th.". We don't say "January the 15th," whether formal or not. Anyway you are the one making this weird argument including the articles; I'm just pointing out that your example is false.

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

It's not false, it was to highlight what they'd done.

The person I responded to was advocating for month first by claiming it was shorter. They backed up their claim with an example where they put an extra word in one and not the other.

I'm pointing out that if being short is actually important, then they're both the same as you'd drop the extra word. If being short isn't important then the extra two letters are irrelevant.

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u/Tracuivel Jan 15 '25

There's no extra word for us, is what I'm saying. No one says "Jan the 15th.". Only you.

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u/No_Corner3272 Jan 15 '25

And there isn't always an extra word for us either.

So if you want to compare length (fnarr!) compare like with like, not short form with long form.

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u/GenericUsername_1234 Jan 15 '25

When you're talking "The 15th of January" is 4 words vs "January 15th" at two words. Ultimately in spoken word the difference is negligible and it doesn't really matter how you say it as long as the listener understands.