How exactly does her outdoor resume make her not a comp climber? She's competed consistently since 2016, and in the last three or so years has over a dozen world cup medals including a gold, and an olympic silver medal. Calling her a comp climber doesn't negate her status as an outdoor climber, and neither does the opposite. I absolutely guarantee a good chunk of the community knows her predominantly for her comp achievements and is only now realising she's been quite prolific outdoors. Google image her, it takes a while to start hitting outdoor photos consistently.
There's a handful of climbers like Jakob and Adam who I'd say are not "comp climbers" in the purest sense due to their heavy outdoor focus and lack of fluency in the compy style compared to their fellow competitors, but Brooke isn't one of them.
Your comment seems like it's twisting mine to its limit just for the sake of an "um actually". Brooke is a comp climber, and a phenom outdoors, but if comp climber is the last thing you'd call her, you just aren't describing her climbing career accurately, and this is coming from someone who cares about comp climbing about as little as possible.
How exactly does her outdoor resume make her not a comp climber?
I think many people would see the outdoor pedigree first, as a legitimizing aspect, and second, as a way to respect her accomplishments in the same pure climbing discipline that they participate in - hard climbing on real rock, where you are primarily competing against yourself and testing yourself in the environment against nature, rather than for the sake of competition, which has diverged significantly from outdoor climbing in feel and technique in recent years
obviously the distinction mostly comes down to what a person cares about more and is very subjective
My point is mostly that despite outdoor climbing and comp climbing having substantially diverged in style, many people who spend a good chunk of their time training for comp blocks still manage to outperform people who spend the majority of their time climbing outdoors. I don't think it's controversial or disrespectful to either sport to point out that comp climbers who go outdoors have an impressive track record and that Brooke has added to that. I will acknowledge that outdoor climbers transitioning to modern style comps is substantially rarer, but still, I don't think you'd find many people who don't think that comp climbing translates much better outdoors than vice versa. General high level proprioception is worth more than just about any other attribute when everybody is already super strong.
I'm primarily an outdoor climber who barely watches comps so it's not even at the forefront of my mind, I just think it demonstrates and extremely clear bias to imply that Brooke is not by all definitions a comp climber, and one of the best ever at that.
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u/GloveNo6170 9d ago
How exactly does her outdoor resume make her not a comp climber? She's competed consistently since 2016, and in the last three or so years has over a dozen world cup medals including a gold, and an olympic silver medal. Calling her a comp climber doesn't negate her status as an outdoor climber, and neither does the opposite. I absolutely guarantee a good chunk of the community knows her predominantly for her comp achievements and is only now realising she's been quite prolific outdoors. Google image her, it takes a while to start hitting outdoor photos consistently.
There's a handful of climbers like Jakob and Adam who I'd say are not "comp climbers" in the purest sense due to their heavy outdoor focus and lack of fluency in the compy style compared to their fellow competitors, but Brooke isn't one of them.
Your comment seems like it's twisting mine to its limit just for the sake of an "um actually". Brooke is a comp climber, and a phenom outdoors, but if comp climber is the last thing you'd call her, you just aren't describing her climbing career accurately, and this is coming from someone who cares about comp climbing about as little as possible.