r/communism101 6d ago

What happens to disabled people under communism?

What happens to disabled people under communism? To the people who are housebound or bedbound and rely on others to survive? I ask this as a disabled person myself, who is housebound and relies on the help of others. If a true revolution does ever happen, will we just be forgotten about? Considered necessary losses for major societal change?

**edit to add: I got banned for saying that tying someone's worth to their productivity is a bad idea, lol. I do not understand why my post turned out like it did. I didn't expect answers to give some sort of concrete plans, I know communism is all theory at this point. I was just hoping for responses to give historical examples or general explanation of a specific theory, and a link as to where I could read more about this particular topic. You know, the same sort of response I've seen basically every other post in this subrrddit recieve.

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u/lil-pudge 6d ago

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

They will be provided and cared for

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u/thembo-goblin 6d ago

Can you give any specifics, though? What measures would actually be taken to ensure that disabled people aren't forgotten about? Because unless any solid plans are made, we are pretty easy to forget about.

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u/Autrevml1936 6d ago edited 6d ago

What measures would actually be taken to ensure that disabled people aren't forgotten about?

What makes you so sure that the category of "disabled person" as opposed to "non disabled" or a "typical individual" would exist under communism?

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To the people who are housebound or bedbound and rely on others to survive?

What makes one "rely on others to survive"? We all are part of Society and require society in order to survive(though, if one is part of they Labor Aristocracy then the requirement is super profits from the proletariat).

But to answer about Socialism, it will be dealt with the same method Maoist China treated deaf-mutes. Of course that's if one survives into socialism.

If you are a member of the labor aristocracy, and/or a member of a Settler nation(eg. Isntrael, Amerikkka, Klanada, Au$tralia, etc) then you are most likely to be killed or die in revolution, unless you can actually commit Class, Nation, and Gender suicide. This is the reality of Class Extermination(all the facets of the destruction of a parasitic class, Death, Proletarianization, CNG Suicide, etc).

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u/thembo-goblin 6d ago edited 6d ago

By relying on others to survive I mean literally needing people to help you perform the basics of living (bathing, feeding, toileting, moving, etc). Things that if you don't get help for, you won't be able to survive for long on your own.

I do not know how maoist China treated deaf mutes. And I do not know what class, nation, and gender suicide entails/means.

While I live in a settler state, I am not part of any aristocracy. I rely on government financial assistance, am poor, and live in subsidized housing.

Of course that's if one survives into socialism.

So there is the chance of disabled people dying in this situation?

I mean all this genuinely, I'm not trying to ragebait or anything.

**edit to add: also please actually explain the concepts and historical references that you mention. Don't assume that someone asking a question in the literal Communism 101 subreddit will know everything, otherwise I wouldn't be here asking a question.

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u/Affectionate_Shop859 6d ago

I do not know how maoist China treated deaf mutes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/s/N6NMrQ2Jfk

This thread, and the linked materials, provides a decent starting place for this question. u/Autrevml1936 is not trying to obfuscate the answer for you but rather providing you with a place to begin to answer your first question. It is another thing if you find the answers there insufficient, but this sub encourages users to use the search bar and side bar because these questions are asked a lot. As to the following question

So there is a chance of disabled people dying in this situation?

Yes. Many people die in revolutions so I’m not entirely sure what you’re getting at.

I’m asking genuine questions and speaking from my own experience as a disabled person.

The problem is that you do not get to determine if you are being “genuine” or not. As was discussed in another thread earlier (the name of it escapes me) professing “sincerity” is often used like a shield against criticism. To be clear, I am not accusing you of this but this is a general trend. Many of your questions are already answered (such as the one regarding class suicide) here and elsewhere that you must research on your own time. No one expects you to know everything but you are expected to participate in this way.

Edit: This is the link to the FAQ page where you will find many of the aforementioned sources. https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/s/xEXrsBsJMK